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Philadelphia plane crash

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by OklahomaGator, Jan 31, 2025 at 6:57 PM.

  1. ridgetop

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    Read the first page for the posts
    At least separate posters immediately make sarcastic, political statements. Blaming Biden, mocking Trump, blaming Trump. No mention or thought for the those that died, their families, etc.. just straight to political garbage. You can now throw in Vegas Fox post about cops dying.
    This isn’t about Trump. You won’t find me arguing that he is a good man. This is about posters on this board who rail against him daily and then lower themselves to his standard.
    Same for those who immediately used this to try to score political points.
    You are correct there is a time and place.. and Trump never realizes that.. and neither did these posters.. again very similar.
     
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  2. vaxcardinal

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    And most posts on this thread don’t even remotely have anything to do with the crash in Philly
     
  3. ridgetop

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    Partially my fault.. my apologies. I am done.
     
  4. G8trGr8t

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    Yet you voted for him. You are getting what you voted for.
     
  5. ridgetop

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    1. I didn’t vote for him and I don’t agree with a lot of what he does.. which I have stated multiple times over multiple threads. 2. Trumps bad behavior, caustic remarks, and idiotic actions do not in any way affect excuse the thoughtless careless point scoring posts.
    3. The fact that so many are so ready to defend those type of posts show just how pathetic people have become. You are defending those that act like Trump because.. Trump. Well done.
     
  6. okeechobee

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    That's because you believe every literal word that comes out of Trump's mouth, as if a POTUS wouldn't ever hide what he/she knows about a critical situation and use words to create a distraction. I guarantee you Trump knows all there is to know about the entire situation. He is the POTUS, was just sworn in. Trust me, within minutes, he was demanding to know what happened. Just because he plays games with words when the cameras are in his face doesn't mean he's telling you every literal thing he knows. Frankly, that's a very naive take to believe Trump doesn't know more than just about everybody else about what happened.
     
  7. ridgetop

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    I believe I read where the plane hit power lines and maybe (can’t remember ) a gas station. Also seems like a lot of jet fuel was sprayed all over the place. Not sure it was a bomb… not saying it wasn’t.. just saying it is plausible that the explosion was from other things.
     
  8. okeechobee

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    I would agree Trump's comments regarding DEI and the helicopter crew in general are somewhat bizarre in the context of what we know from the media. (which is a huge disclaimer) However, I certainly believe Trump knows more than we know about that crash and his comments being so pointed makes me think he knows something about the situation that leads him in that direction very strongly. What you must also consider is that he is feeling the pain of 64 passengers on the AA jet who are no longer with us. Many of whom appear to have been young, talented and held foreign passports. So he has to present some level of accountability to the nations that were affected by this tragedy.

    I'm just speculating, but in my view Trump was told something that leads him to believe this tragedy was very preventable, to say the least. As with so many things, perhaps we should wait a while to let the facts trickle out.
     
  9. vaxcardinal

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    if it were taking off then it would have a lot of fuel
     
  10. ridgetop

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    I’m guessing catastrophic mechanical failure.. not a pilot so I’m not sure but the way it dove seemed like mechanical failure.
     
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  11. gator_jo

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    Not DEI?
     
  12. OklahomaGator

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    It also hit some gas lines/meters that caused a gas explosion as well according to the press reports that night.
     
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  13. 92gator

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    ...which would make for a stuttered couple of explosions, with a delay, and reddish orange fire ball (which we actually fid see).

    It doesn't explain the inordinate extraordinarily bright instant flash we see exactly upon impact, combined with the outward blow, and the distance of the charring to vehicles substantially removed from the impact point.

    Just sayin...
     
  14. vegasfox

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    I believe my post was about cops killing J6 posters. No cop was killed by a J6er. The lady 8n the video below said she was going to "(mess) up" a Trump supporter. Here she is murdering an unconscious Trump supporter. There are many such examples of DC cops going above and beyond the call of duty. Forgive me for thinking Trump )and by extension his supporters) is hated for his implicit whiteness.
     
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  15. demosthenes

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    You have an unhealthy level of deference for a serial liar. You seem to think he has a preternatural level of self control and omniscience that he most certainly does not possess.
     
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    Sure, that's the routine you've been running on for 9+ years now, but he wouldn't need a preternatural level of self control or omniscience in this scenario, so I am not even sure what you're attempting to say. It sounds as though your TDS is making a bunch of assumptions and we know what happens when we assume. The bottom line is if there are any facts on the crash, Trump is going to be the first to know. On something like this, I'd wager every POTUS has the facts way before the general public does. Especially as it relates to a military helicopter crash.
     
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    It seems like you think citizens should just ignore Trump's bullying, lies, bluster, etc during the press conference and not comment. That's not realistic in a free country. In my book, silence to disgusting behavior is acquiescence and in effect agreement.

    If Trump had simply acted responsibly, acknowledging the tragedy and extending condolences to the families like most all Presidents do, the negative reactions which you note would have been muted if they occurred at all.
     
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  18. vaxcardinal

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    Well the people on the plane were Mexican
     
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    While a bomb is not completely beyond the realm of possibility the more rational explanation is that it caused by jet fuel igniting upon impact. Also let's remember the debris from the plane hit multiple automobiles all of which had tanks with explosive gasoline and that the debris also impacted a number of buildings most which which were probably connected to natural gas lines.
     
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  20. demosthenes

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    Considering the accident was (and still is) under investigation he would certainly need omniscience to support any claim of knowing what the cause of the accident was. You’re correct about the “preternatural” comment, I meant that in relation to Trump’s demonstrated behavior as the baseline. Any ordinary individual wouldn’t struggle with self control keeping their mouth shut. We all know that’s a negative attribute of Trump’s.

    I’ve never claimed a POTUS wouldn’t have more information that the public but that wasn’t the basis for his comments. He acknowledged the cause of the accident is still under investigation and his basis for claiming DEI was “common sense” which by its very nature is not based on fact.
     
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