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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gator515151, Jan 29, 2025 at 9:49 PM.

  1. BLING

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    DEI Tourette’s is definitely racism. Just think about it for 1 sec, if every single time a minority is involved you jump to “DEI hire”, the inference is they are unqualified and were only there because of race. To the extent “unqualified minorities” exist in the workforce by sole virtue of their race, which I think is practically null, maybe this argument would have merit if we stuck to those cases?

    Trying to affix the DEI label to politicians it’s just silly. You think Pence was “most qualified” for anything??? He was every bit the DEI hire that Harris was as VP. His purpose was to appease the evangelical vote in the same way Harris was meant to appeal to black and female voters. Yet, i bet you can’t find a single instance of a right winger labeling Pence a DEI hire. Why do you suppose that is?
     
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  2. GatorTheo

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    But he preferred a woman of color, correct?
     
  3. okeechobee

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    There isn't any getting around the fact that Democrats pushed a policy of DEI which forced federal agencies to shift focus away from hiring the best and brightest and more towards the racial and orientation makeup of their hires. So whether the "DEI hire" jeers are accurate or not, you're going to have to own the policy you pushed. You set yourself up for this and now every time someone of color or of certain orientation makes a mistake, we are going to hear "DEI hire!" If you had never pushed this unnecessary policy in the first place, we would have no idea what a "DEI hire" means.
     
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  4. mdgator05

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    Your claim was "Do you really not know Biden said he was going to pick a woman of color?"

    The full sentence of the quote that you left out is:

    "Whomever I pick, preferably it will be someone who was of color and/or a different gender, but I’m not making that commitment until I know that the person I’m dealing with I can completely and thoroughly trust as authentic and on the same page [as me],"

    Pretty big gap there. Clearly, he is stating that the most important aspect is that he can trust the person as authentic and on the same page.
     
  5. wgbgator

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    Again, you are kind of missing the first part. Or is the contention that this is a 'DEI' hire? Even if you are extremely qualified, but a minority, its DEI? That's not the argument the conservatives say they are making, is it?
     
  6. GatorTheo

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    If you publicly announce a DEI plan, don't get upset when people remember it. It's like announcing you're going to hire more gingers. When you hire a ginger, people are going to think they got preferential treatment.

    It's simple. 'DEI' is associated with favorable treatment of minorities. 'Racism' is associated with favorable treatment of whites.
     
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  7. wgbgator

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    Sure. So what? Your argument is that there are more qualified people being passed over and lesser qualified or incompetent people are chosen based on their race. He laid out what he wanted, and it wasnt their status as a POC. There's no real case that you can make that she was unqualified is there?
     
  8. GatorTheo

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    Without searching any more, I'll give in to Biden saying he preferred a woman of color rather than saying he will absolutely pick a woman of color.

    Fair?
     
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  9. GatorTheo

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    So if Trump said he'd prefer a white man and then he picked a white man, you'd be OK with that?

    And I didn't address her qualifications although she was never popular among democrats even to this day.
     
  10. mdgator05

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    Sure, that is what he said.
     
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  11. wgbgator

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    Of course, I'd be thrilled if he and conservatives like you actually said what they meant instead of hiding behind the DEI boogeyman.
     
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  12. BLING

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    This is all bullshit of course.

    Same as CRT or Trans panic.

    When it comes to air traffic controllers they don’t even have enough candidates period. I think the bigger issue is the general dumbing down of America. There aren’t enough highly skilled in a number of fields and none of that has anything to do with DEI. Air Traffic Control has this general issue getting new candidates at a pace to replace workers aging out, it’s an aging workforce using old tech. A high stress job and I’m guessing getting trained on dinosaur tech in a high stress job isn’t appealing to younguns (that, and it’s a job where those with ADHD need not apply). You couldn’t pay me $1,000,000 to consider that job in its current state given the risks involved, actual median salary $132k.
     
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  13. OklahomaGator

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    I have talked to a few ex military guys that I know and I asked them about the "training" flight. They all said unless they are at war, basically everything they do is training one way or another. There ae cases of transporting supplies or people to different places that might not be training but pretty much everything else they do is some sort of training.
     
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  14. G8trGr8t

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    @92gator..are you in favor of conclusions being reached before investigations? how can anyone support this sort of buffoonery
     
  15. GatorTheo

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    They want to give special treatment to certain groups without anyone mentioning that they're giving special treatment to certain groups.
     
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  16. GatorTheo

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    What you say about the lack of candidates is correct. DEI is a separate issue.
     
  17. G8trGr8t

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    this. there isn't a sufficient pool of qualified individuals to meet the labor demand for skilled employees.

    that is median, it starts much lower than that, mid 50's. much higher cost to get certification, much lower starting salary than a A & P license to work on planes, longer runway to get to 6 figures with lot more stress.

    it's no wonder why they can't get candidates. son wanted to do it, tested out for it, accepted, just didn't make sense for a career path.

    ATC is one area that AI could excel at increasing efficiency
     
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  18. G8trGr8t

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    there is no DEI when you test for ATC. Either you pass the aptitude test or you don't. If you have evidence to the contrary, please share it
     
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  19. GatorTheo

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    I'm unfamiliar with their procedures. If ATC doesn't do DEI, that's great.
     
  20. VAg8r1

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    And I get the feeling that you love the Orange Leader or at least enjoy making excuses for his incompetence and/or despicable behavior.
     
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