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Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by gator34654, Jan 24, 2025 at 12:45 PM.

  1. Gators244

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    Last 3 games teams figured out Lagway struggles when you drop 8 in this zone running play action scheme. Ole Miss dropped 8 62% of the time. LSU 67% and FSU 67% respectively. Billy doesn’t have a lot of quick zone beaters in his arsenal of play calling. He has leaned on slants and digs in the past when teams are obviously playing zone and quite frankly the other team knows it’s coming. I know Billy will continue to call plays but I pray he brings someone in that will help him with his passing scheme. We desperately need to start scheming receivers open and stop relying on having better athletes winning despite the defense knowing the play or D.J will never hit his potential.
     
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  2. coach

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    Plenty of stuff to self scout and work on before next season. One of the big advantages of DJ’s extended playing time. Much better than having to work on it mid season next year.
     
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  3. Gatorhead

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    So if UF / Napier hires an offensive coordinator, then what will the negative nellies on this board say?:

    OH that person sucks, terrible choice, I told you Napier can't coach, can't pick good assistant coaches and is what he is:
    Sunbelt Billy. Remember these coaches and their OC's? PB&J death threat guy? Chump? Yeah, I noticed their selections were overwhelming.
    Overwhelming in terms of NOT scoring points!

    NOBODY on this board knows for sure that an offensive coordinator would be "better" or more successful than Napier calling plays next year.

    Kellen Moore ain't coming, and those brilliant OC's just waiting for the call, that low hanging fruit, tell me who would come?

    Uh - Who and where are they? Oh wait, I know the answer from this board, pick some high profile NFL name and pay em 5 - 8 million dollars
    or offer them Alachua County.

    How many times does Napier have to say "NO", or just refuses to go in that direction before this fan base recognizes it ain't gonna happen?

    I'm not saying critics are right or wrong, but I will say no one knows for sure. Regarding that 29,28,28 ppg deal. Yeah, statistically close.
    But the bulk of the offensive line is returning, the running back room is terrific, the receiver room, while young, has great speed, height and potential, and UF may have the best "COLLEGE" QB to compete under a Napier team.
     
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  4. Gatorhead

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    UNREAL.

    When UF played LSU, LSU was still in contention for a possible playoff spot, although on the outside looking it.
    When UF played Ole Miss they were a UF win away from the playoffs.

    I could not disagree more that LSU and Ole Miss were "the weakest part of the schedule".
    Didn't Ole Miss pound UGA a week or two previous?
     
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  5. RealGatorFan

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  6. Wanne15

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    Georgia pretty much goes all in on everything and they have Mike Bobo and their fans hate him
     
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  7. DieAGator

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    Not to mention, it would take some evidence that LSU or Ole Miss were less talented than us.
     
  8. Gatorhead

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    Wanne, I'm sure you have noticed that most SEC fans, Florida's included, hate EVERYTHING about their team, program, coaches and decisions made.
    Keyboard warriors have all the answers, never mind most of em never played a down of College Football.

    Here is my bitch. Napier is calling the plays. He ain't fired yet, the issue is settled, at least until game 1, so we don't need another 100 pages of posters calling for an OC.
     
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  9. Gatorhead

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    Sure

    Cut your personal check to the Collective for 10 million and you just might be able to influence those decisions.
     
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  10. nawlinsgator

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    Napier is calling the plays. He has a 19-19 record at Florida. 10-14 record in the SEC.
    He's not fired because we can't afford to fire him.
     
  11. Gatorhead

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    I'm not quite sure its as simple as your post describes, however I do understand the dollars involved are significant.

    Nor do I like the record. It stinks. Just like it did under Mullen his last 2 years, like it was every year but 1 under Chump and like it was
    under Peanut Butter Breath, unless of course wining 9 and going to a couple of SEC title games and getting beaten by 40 by Bama is considered good.

    Given that, I choose to support the current head coach, whomever it is, until the tea leaves or the administration is pointing to termination.
    Napier is the coach going into 2025, like it or not.

    Considering I wear very large O & B glasses I'm going to cheer and support UF, as much as possible. I have not quite reached the level of cynicism
    where I hope UF gets pounded to dust by every team because I am not satisfied with the staff.

    Interestingly, consider the FSU collapse, which was on an epic and historical scale. If I recall correctly, the third worst collapse in Power 4 history from one year to another.

    I think your comment: "He's not fired because we can't afford to fire him" most certainly applied to Norvell. And I will acknowledge that money DID have something to do with UF's vote of confidence. However I don't think he was retained strictly over "money". I think higher ups legit like Napier, and have some level of faith that Napier can get UF to a "top 12" or playoff competitive program.

    Now having typed all that, I freely acknowledge that I haven't a clue about the actual story or facts. Only what I can piece together or deduce from sites like GC, On3, 24/7, David Waters, Peek, Hightop, Locked on Gators, Buddy Martin, Shane Matthews, Read and React, among others.
     
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  12. calvinball11

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    I do not know if hiring an OC will win or lose more games? The main reason I would like to see an OC is it would simply give Napier a truer CEO position where he would be able to concentrate more in the areas that are struggling. I am a booster and am glad Napier got another year and I feel he has to be at least 1 game better than this year, preferably 2, to get another year.

    I feel he has to let go of the offense to free him up for other duties and he may be too stubborn to do that and it may cost him his job? But what an amazing backend of the season and I am as much a basketball fan as football so a good time to be a gator right now! Chomp Chomp!
     
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  13. Skink

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    Oh shut the hell up
    I’ve worked in and around New Orleans for years and it’s out of character there for people to whine incessantly. You’re embarrassing yourself
     
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  14. Gatorhead

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    I envy ANYBODY that gets to eat cajun cuisine! Lived in Kenner for 5 years.
    Gained 30 lbs......... and I will admit that was less "muscle mass" and more "belly projection", but dayumn it went down so good! YUM
     
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  15. Gatorhead

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    This is a fairly common response to the OC thing and not unreasonable IMO. But here is the thing, Napier is going to sink or swim at UF by calling the plays. That's what he did at Louisiana, that's what he has done at UF for the last 3 years, and I suspect, one of the reasons he got the UF job in the first place.

    I have accepted it as part of the deal while Napier is coach. I ain't saying it will work out, nor am I saying an OC hire would NOT help the Gators, but reality is reality. I would rather discuss the various position groups because the OC issue, at least for 2025, has been decided, case closed.
     
  16. 2oldgator

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    He’s not been fired because he has made great strides in cleaning up the mess he inherited at the worst possible time in the history of college football.
    He has the best team he has had yet going into this coming season and it was built wisely. He didn’t go the quick fix route relying heavily on the portal: he built it, in large part, through recruiting: not easy to do with our station the past few years.
    He hasn’t hit a home run on the field and he has shown some shortcomings but he has also shown he can change, and he is evolving.
    We are at a point where the next big jump forward needs to be on the playing field. I, for one, hope he can take the momentum this team and staff gained at season’s end last year and really pour the coals on this year.
     
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  17. Crusher

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    Agreed. He hasn't completely "fixed" our talent level, but has definitely improved it. He has had 3 years to implement and refine his system. Year's 4 and 5 have to show results on the field and not just in the locker room. Its gonna be a tough row to hoe in the SEC though (always is).
     
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  18. DieAGator

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    So, he extinguished the dumpster fire he inherited but now want him to pour coals on the program? It's gonna get crazzy round here 2old.
     
  19. DieAGator

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    I do not like our OL recruiting and wish we had a more stacked DL- which it may turn out we have. That said, I believe we have enough talent all positions to be very good IF the staff has the wherewithal to make it happen. Posters should no longer make excuses like "oh, but teams x y and z were more talented, we were lucky to even be in those games" excuses.

    The D we ended the season with was formidable. Our offense could make some gains as well. We won 8 with what we had, and should do at least that well next season.
     
  20. nawlinsgator

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    Strawman argument there. Nobody is rooting for us to lose. Nobody. Nobody wants a Gator coach to fail. Apparently your Orange and Blue glasses only see the coaches in color and not the fans.
    In fact, there was a glimmer of hope in the eyes of every Gator fan with the nice little win streak at the end of the year. Here is Napier, with the defense throwing him a life preserver, and instead of taking it and swimming back to dry land, here he is swimming further out on his merry way, waiting for the next big wave to hit.