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What's happening in DeSantistan 2.0

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gator_lawyer, Jun 9, 2023.

  1. G8trGr8t

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  2. CHFG8R

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    They can say what they want, and I don't agree with his pandering DEI policies, but overall we could do a lot worse than DeSantis. Like, the former governor, for instance. Just a worthless, carpetbagging, corrupt POS to the core. So bad his own party hates him. Hell, even MAGA keeps him at arm's distance even though he bends the knees every day to worship Donald's jock.
     
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  3. OklahomaGator

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    I heard this subject being discussed on the radio this morning as I was going to McDonalds. They said that reading scores were down in all 50 states for 8th graders. I think this is terrible. Many blame the Covid years as part of the problem where students missed in some cases close to a half a year of school.
     
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  4. G8trGr8t

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    he didn't force his own personal religious agenda on the state. he didn't use federal funds and the line item veto to punish anyone who disagreed with him and reward his supporters. I could go on about school vouchers, New College, removal of elected officials for political reasons...sorry, Scott isn't a good guy but desi is a whole nother level of evil convinced his evangelical ways are what a real leader must force upon the unclean masses for their own benefit.

    edit.. there can always be worse, that isn't where I set the bar
     
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  5. CHFG8R

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    Get off My Beach Law. Carpetbagger signed it, with no sense of shame, as the Governor of Florida. Tells me everything I need to know about that scumbag and his carpetbagger Marco Island buddies. DeSantis is pandering. Scott was more quiet in his evil but far more obvious in his utter contempt for real Floridians.
     
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    Despite the drop in all 50 states, Florida has dropped below the national average for the first time in years.
     
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  7. G8trGr8t

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    not a fan of private property rights? customary use was equivalent to squatters rights for the public benefit. if the state watns the alnd for public use, the state should buy the land, just like they do anywhere else. 8th generation floridian, have no problem with staying off your property, have corrected more than one person as to where their property actually is too
     
  8. CHFG8R

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    Beaches are public. Always have been and always should be. If you don't like that, move to Georgia or buy on a lake. . . or stay in NY!

    Hilarious (and telling) that the politicians pushing this were from Naples/Marco Island and Boca Raton. Again, tells you everything you need to know.
     
  9. G8trGr8t

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    define beach. land was sold to people and they own it. it is oceanfront and has sand. it is privately owned. it is not publicly owned, never has been sinc ethe time it was surveyed, platted, and sold. if the state wants it, they can buy it back. that land is no different than any other piece of deeded property in the state just because it abuts the ocean. public owns to mean high water or to the deeded corner but MHW at a minimum. I'm from poor cracker family, live in Naples, born in Miami, wth does that have to do with private property rights..now people telling me I can't fish under the docks, i got that statute saved to show the fwc officer I'm about to call to get them cited for interfering with or attempting to prevent the lawful taking of fish, game, or nongame animals by another. someone trying to mark off the beach past the MHW, I'll tear them up myself and wait on the popo to get there.

    Chapter 379 Section 105 - 2011 Florida Statutes - The Florida Senate
     
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    So, let me get this straight. You have a problem with people not allowing you to fish under their docks, but you think they own all the property past the high water line. Remember, HWL (even mean) is still pretty high up the beach. And that's what they backtracked to, because the original intent was to fence all the way to and maybe into the water. Isn't that what carpetbagger DB Mike Huckabee tried to do in the panhandle?

    Again, anyone who grew up here knows that the beach (below the HWL) is public and always has been. And Naples and Miami are notorious for carpetbaggers who always want to change things to the "way they were up north" or at the very least, something that works for them at the expense of everyone else.

    But I get it. As you said earlier, you work for a developer (or something developer adjacent).
     
  12. G8trGr8t

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    No. Public owns to MHW. Nothing in the law changed that. That has never changed and I'm in full support of that. Navigable water is public in Florida and stomping your feet or spraying the boat with a hose or throwing stuff in water to scare fish is against the law. In both cases, I support the law.
     
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    They wanted more. They settled for that after the uproar. God forbid they have to see the rabble walk by.
     
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    walk nothing, this rabble likes to strut if they want to watch :). Ill beach my boat on parts of Big Hickory Island to walk the beach and look for bait and hyatt staff will try and tell me that is their beach because it fronts their beach club. at least they used to, I think they got the memo.
     
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    It’s not surprising seeing a COVID effect, seems a little odd it would be worse in ‘24 than ‘22. But maybe that had to do with the age of the children at the time of COVID and how it impacted them at the time they were starting to read books? Just a guess on my part. If that were true in 2-4 more years you’d expect the #’s to bounce back up as the COVID effect cycles out completely. Otherwise something else is going on (such as social media brain damage).

    There’s also the matter of FL underperformance, so while the trend is national that is state specific.
     
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  16. CHFG8R

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    I love it. Good for you!!
     
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    Declines started before COVID. IMO, look no further than electronic devices and parenting. Why give a kid a book when you can keep them occupied for hours with a tablet or smartphone.

    As for Florida, yeah, lack of accountability in private schools is a concern. 70% of those receiving Florida tax payer voucher money are not accredited.

    The declines started before the pandemic, continued during it and have persisted since. While the lowest-achieving students fell further behind everyone else, the slides were broad, affecting students across different states, school types, races and economic backgrounds.

    https://www.wsj.com/us-news/educati...udents-5fb78d4e?mod=Searchresults_pos1&page=1
     
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