Orange Skidmark Strikes Again: Exec. Order to Reallocate California Water Supplies

We've invaded California? Or was there never any US military in CA before today?

Also, is the plan to start digging a ditch from CA to all that water a thousand miles away? And will this involve invading OR and WA, too?

 

If that isnt a sign of dementia I dont know what is.

 

OK, but the COE is already in California, I'd assume.

 

Yikes! Loving the all-caps and bolded words. I can hear you yelling as you type. May have to wipe your screen.

Yes, you are partially correct here. The utility system failed. The utility system that carries the water to put out fires. The utility system that ran out of water. The city of LA failed, as they were briefed a week prior (by the National Weather Service) about the Santa Ana high winds. So, they knew if a fire broke out, say, if a homeless person started a fire (which happens quite often) and these winds were going to be so strong, then why was there not a plan in place knowing their utilities were deficient? Heck, the Mayor left town knowing all this.

LA’s utility system has massive institutional problems. Nine years ago, voters passed a state water bond authorizing $7.5 billion in new water projects (dams, aqueducts, and reservoirs). Their utility system had not been updated since the 80s, and the population was much larger. How many dams and reservoirs do you think have been built? You guessed... zero. This is par for the course for most California statewide projects.

From the LA Times: Voters in 2018 approved Measure W (a different bill), which is aimed at improving L.A.’s aging stormwater capture system. Officials are making progress, but experts say there’s a long way to go. Of an estimated 5 billion to 10 billion gallons pouring into the Los Angeles Basin from current storms, only about 20% will be captured by the county.

Let's face it: Democrats are terrible at building things and solving complex issues. They over-tax, overspend, and underperform consistently. I believe many Republicans do not do a good job either. California was the state with the largest net loss of one-way U-Haul customers in 2024. My guess is they will be #1 again in 2025 because they overtax, overspend, underperform, and make excuses for their inept leadership.

 

Lotta words. Too bad the ones that aren't opinion are lies.


Let's get back to the issue in contention; the response to the LA fires was not hindered by low water levels in the supplying reservoirs. Specifically; there was no problem with the amount of water supplied from the northern part of the state.

Re-read that paragraph until you understand it - doesn't matter how long it takes.

That's what this thread is about. Not whatever uninformed opinions you have about..... pretty much everything else.

Got it? So your Orange Skidmark is just babbling, dividing, finger-pointing and spreading hate. As usual. (And here you are to try and gaslight and shill for him. Sad.)



Water supply was too slow, not too low
LADWP’s explanation for the shortage comes down to three nearby water tanks, each with a storage capacity of about a million gallons. These tanks help maintain enough pressure for water to flow from fire hydrants in uphill areas — but the pressure had decreased due to heavy water use, and officials knew the tanks couldn’t keep up the drain forever.

“We pushed the system to the extreme,” LADWP CEO Janisse Quiñones said in a news conference. “Four times the normal demand was seen for 15 hours straight, which lowered our water pressure.”

According to LADWP, the tanks’ water supply needed to be replenished in order to provide enough pressure for the water to flow through fire hydrants uphill. But officials said as firefighters drew more and more water from the trunk line, or main supply, they used water that would have refilled the tanks, eventually depleting them.

Fact check: What really happened with the Pacific Palisades hydrants?

 

What is the best way to call out someone who makes zero effort to learn, but tells outright lies, solely because they heard their political hero lie them?

Serious question; haven't we, as a nation and population, reached a point where we need to socially pressure people who indicate a willingness to repeatedly publicly lie?

If not, how do we get better - vote Republican and just wait until Trump leaves?*


* I only included that last part because of how absurd that sounds.....and because it's basically what you do, right?

 

Again. You cant help yourself.

But since you took yet another little shot, I do vote mostly republican, though lately only down ballot.

Why? Because I hate the silly leftist, anything goes, lack of common sense agenda that America just beat back into its hole. Sadly, I think we did that at the expense of decency by electing someone that is abhorrent.

What you and many can not handle is that most did not vote FOR Trump, they voted against YOUR world view and that drives you crazy because that narrow worldview thinks the pRoGreSsIvE world view is the only one worthy of choosing.

But NONE of that makes you have some moral high ground to talk about "grown-up's" when you are arguably one of the most guilty posters here at engaging in not so grown-up shots and digs.

 

Point taken. I'll try to avoid claiming any high-ground due to posting like a grown-up.

I'll stick to absolutely having moral high ground for not voting for a criminal sexual assaulter.

And for having moral high ground for not voting for the people who lie for and enable a criminal sexual assaulter.

 

I truly would like to meet you in person. Want to be FB buddies?

 

No.

 

Seems a bit like a game of semantics. Your post continues:

At the end of the day, a LACK of water was a big issue. The trunk lines came from somewhere and could not keep up.

I have no idea who is at fault for that or if Trump even has a clue, but a LOW water supply literally led to a SLOW water supply.

So while reservoirs may have not been the direct problem, water quantity in other forms was.

 

Good. Me too.

 

The problem wasn't the amount of water coming from the north, as Trump LIED.

This is obvious to everyone.

 

One out of two isn't bad for you. I guess...

 

What liar did I vote for?
Hint: you have no idea and are making crap up.

 

No municipal fire hydrant system in the world is equipped to put out a raging wildfire engulfing several city blocks, fueled by 80+mph winds. Wildfires like that are contained in hopes to stop the spread. And air support dropping water and retardant are some of the best weapons against the fires. But with the winds, all air support was grounded.

 

Some of you might be interested in the nuances discussed in this episode.

Sam Harris | #399 - The Politics of Catastrophe

January 27, 2025
Sam Harris speaks with Rick Caruso about the Los Angeles fires. They discuss how mismanagement may have contributed to the severity of the fires, who’s to blame, the practice of private firefighting, rebuilding and the future of L.A., how DEI fueled public cynicism toward government, the ethics of having immense wealth, philanthropy, and other topics.

Rick Caruso is a philanthropist and the founder and executive chairman of Caruso, one of the largest privately held real estate companies in the U.S. Early in his career, he served as Commissioner for the L.A. Department of Water and Power, before being selected to be President of the L.A. Police Commission. He also served as the chair of the board of trustees at the University of Southern California, and is on the boards of St. John’s Hospital and the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library Foundation.

 

Every member of the Trumppublican party is required to lie about his fake election fraud lies. And that's just a start.

Where have you been?

 

But thousands of pages of state, county and municipal records reviewed by The Times show the disaster was years in the making. Red tape, budget shortfalls and government inaction repeatedly stymied plans for water system improvements in parts of the county like Malibu and Topanga outside the city of L.A. — including some that specifically cited the need to boost firefighting capacity.

Many projects on a list of about three dozen “highest priority” upgrades compiled by county officials in 2013 have yet to break ground in communities devastated by the fires
Officials were warned of failing water system before Palisades fire. Fixes never happened