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EO pausing federal grants?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by slayerxing, Jan 28, 2025 at 5:00 PM.

  1. slayerxing

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    https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-pause-federal-grants-aid-f9948b9996c0ca971f0065fac85737ce

    Summary provided by AI (although I encourage you to read up on this one, as it is interesting with potentially huuuuge ramifications).

    President Donald Trump caused significant uncertainty by pausing federal funding while his administration reviews programs for ideological compliance with his executive orders. The pause affects grants and loans crucial for local governments, schools, and nonprofits, leading to confusion about which programs are impacted. While some federal aid programs like Medicare and Social Security are safe, others, like Meals on Wheels, are uncertain. Trump’s review targets policies related to fossil fuel production, LGBTQ+ protections, and diversity efforts, questioning whether they align with his agenda.

    Critics, including Democrats and nonprofit groups, argue the move is illegal and harmful, creating chaos for communities that depend on federal assistance. A spreadsheet circulated by the government asks agencies to assess whether programs support what Trump labels "Marxist" policies. The pause has sparked lawsuits and calls for legal action, with opponents claiming it violates constitutional limits on executive power. Despite this, the administration defends the action as part of Trump's broader effort to reshape government spending.
     
  2. ColoradoNoVaGator

    ColoradoNoVaGator Premium Member

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  3. vaxcardinal

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    Before assessing the post, which AI engine did you use?
     
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  4. slayerxing

    slayerxing GC Hall of Fame

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    It's just a simple summary using chatGpt for people to lazy to read the article. Just read the link for APNews take, which is usually pretty neutral.
     
  5. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    looks like a mess

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/27/poli...s-federal-grants-loan-disbursement/index.html
     
  6. vaxcardinal

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    Ok, just didn’t want to waste time with the ridiculous Chinese AI crap. Guess it depends on how long this pause lasts since there are legitimate funding needs that are caught up in the process.
     
  7. G8tas

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    This impacted Medicaid programs in all 50 states. Why do you hate old grandmas that are on Medicaid so much?
     
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  8. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

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    I got a call from my son. His GF was in tears. She is a low income family who is a first generation college student at App State. They are very conservative. Nice people with a blue collar construction dad and mom works for some agency. She is only in school due to federal loans even working 30 hours+ a week. She's afraid she will have to leave school.

    Terrible communication from the Trump administration.
     
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  9. gator_jo

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    This is clearly illegal.

    It's clearly one of many things Trump has done that are patently illegal. It's so obvious that both Lindsey Graham and Chuck Grassley have come out and said Trump's actions were illegal. (Before they scurried away and cowered, of course.)

    I can't understand how he is getting away with so many things that are illegal. Do we no longer have a Congress?

    Does the collective legality of Trump's doings deserve its own thread?
     
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  10. Norcaligator

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    Could be yet another FAFO moment for Orange Skidmark voters.
     
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  11. gator_jo

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    Perhaps a conversation with ColoradoNoVaGator would be helpful for them? He seems to understand why this is a good thing.
     
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  12. slayerxing

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    From UF-

    FROM: David Norton, Vice President for Research

    SUBJECT: Guidance regarding federal funding

    The University of Florida is working to interpret a range of executive orders and related memos regarding federal funding issued by the White House since the new administration took office on January 20. UF Research is working closely with our government relations team in Washington to track and understand the latest developments.

    A memo from the acting director of the White House Office of Management and Budget on January 27 instructs each federal agency, to the extent permissible under applicable law, to temporarily pause all activities related to obligations or disbursement of all federal financial assistance, and other relevant agency activities that may be implicated by the executive orders. The pause is imposed to provide the new administration an opportunity to identify programs and policies that may not align with the President’s priorities.

    This directive goes into effect on January 28 at 5 p.m. and all programs are to be reviewed by federal agencies by February 10.

    At this point, UF Research is advising faculty to continue conducting grant-related activities for which funds have already been allocated, unless they are specifically advised that a project has been suspended or terminated. Faculty should exercise prudence in making additional financial commitments at this time, especially if a funded award appears to conflict with current administration priorities. If you receive any communications from your federal sponsor, please ensure that UF Research is included. If not, please forward a copy to ufawards@ufl.edu.

    We understand that there may be concerns regarding the possible impacts of the executive orders and memos, but we remind everyone that it is common for new administrations to review existing programs and policies, including pausing some activities during transitions, as agencies seek to align with the incoming leadership. We encourage all faculty and staff to, as much as possible, continue with business as usual while UF Research works to understand any direct implications across the breadth of the university.

    Proposals
    ● The Division of Sponsored Programs will continue to submit proposals as long as federal submission systems remain operational.
    ● Sponsor proposal review timelines may be extended due to federal pauses in specific funding areas.
    ● PIs should reconfirm proposal deadlines, as they may change, and verify that funding announcements have not been revised or postponed.
    ● Expect DEIA-related aspects to be removed from solicitations.
    ● Sign up for agency or sponsor alerts, if available.

    Awards
    ● Terms and conditions of active awards remain enforceable.
    ● Programs may face restructuring, delays, or defunding. Guidance will be shared when available.
    ● Any modifications, increments or extensions may be delayed while federal programs are reviewed.

    UF is working closely with the Association of American Universities (AAU), the Association of Public and Land-Grant Universities (APLU), the Council on Governmental Relations (COGR), and other associations to determine the nature of the operational slowdown and to get additional information, which will be shared as we learn more.
     
  13. mrhansduck

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    I don't know if this is definitely related but just saw this headline...

    Trump Medicaid freeze seems to lock 72 million Americans out of their health insurance

    President Donald Trump’s move to freeze federal funding for a massive number of government programs seems to have impacted Medicaid payment systems across the country, potentially locking 72 million Americans out of their health insurance.

    Several lawmakers took to social media on Tuesday afternoon to confirm that that their state’s Medicaid payment systems have been shut off.

    “Can confirm. Connecticut’s Medicaid payment system has been turned off. Doctors and hospitals cannot get paid,” wrote Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut in a post on the social media site X. “Discussions ongoing about whether services can continue.”

    Oregon Sen. Ron Wyden said on X that his staff has confirmed that Medicaid portals in all 50 states are down due to the Trump administration’s federal funding freeze.
     
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  14. G8tas

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    Gas Medicaid is down Nationwide. I just read that the Trump boys are hoping to have it back up in the next few hours. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

    In addition to that all low income housing vouchers are frozen. I feel bad for all landlords that are expecting rent payment in the next few days.
     
  15. citygator

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    Rule by tweet gets stupid things done. This is already the most incompetent administration start in history. Literally destroying productivity of the entire educational system.
     
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  16. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    "So wait a minute. You mean if we just shut down all grants, loans, assistance of any kind ... that can cause problems? Damn, this government stuff is hard!"
     
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  17. ColoradoNoVaGator

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    Once again, a whole swath of people get wee wee'd up
    here you go:

    Q: Is this a freeze on benefits to Americans like SNAP or student loans?

    A: No, any program that provides direct benefits to Americans is explicitly excluded from the pause and exempted from this review process. In addition to Social Security and Medicare, already explicitly excluded in the guidance, mandatory programs like Medicaid and SNAP will continue without pause. Funds for small businesses, farmers, Pell grants, Head Start, rental assistance, and other similar programs will not be paused. If agencies are concerned that these programs may implicate the President’s Executive Orders, they should consult OMB to begin to unwind these objectionable policies without a pause in the payments.
     
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  18. rivergator

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    Link?

    Meanwhile

    https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-pause-federal-grants-aid-f9948b9996c0ca971f0065fac85737ce
     
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  19. ColoradoNoVaGator

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    It's directly from the White House memo
     
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  20. oragator1

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    FHA had to send out a comm today telling all their users that you could still get an FHA loan and that their systems weren’t impacted.