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CIA believes COVID originated in lab

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ColoradoNoVaGator, Jan 26, 2025 at 1:34 PM.

  1. G8trGr8t

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    this is the unclassified sumamry from dni . not sure your sources as you provide none. all these agencies are now under political pressure to tell someone what they want to hear to avoid the wrath of

    Unclassified-Summary-of-Assessment-on-COVID-19-Origins.pdf

    Key Takeaways The IC assesses that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, probably emerged and infected humans through an initial small-scale exposure that occurred no later than November 2019 with the first known cluster of COVID-19 cases arising in Wuhan, China in December 2019. In addition, the IC was able to reach broad agreement on several other key issues. We judge the virus was not developed as a biological weapon. Most agencies also assess with low confidence that SARS-CoV-2 probably was not genetically engineered; however, two agencies believe there was not sufficient evidence to make an assessment either way. Finally, the IC assesses China’s officials did not have foreknowledge of the virus before the initial outbreak of COVID-19 emerged. After examining all available intelligence reporting and other information, though, the IC remains divided on the most likely origin of COVID-19. All agencies assess that two hypotheses are plausible: natural exposure to an infected animal and a laboratory-associated incident.

     Four IC elements and the National Intelligence Council assess with low confidence that the initial SARS-CoV-2 infection was most likely caused by natural exposure to an animal infected with it or a close progenitor virus—a virus that probably would be more than 99 percent similar to SARS-CoV-2. These analysts give weight to China’s officials’ lack of foreknowledge, the numerous vectors for natural exposure, and other factors.
     One IC element assesses with moderate confidence that the first human infection with SARS-CoV-2 most likely was the result of a laboratory-associated incident, probably involving experimentation, animal handling, or sampling by the Wuhan Institute of Virology. These analysts give weight to the inherently risky nature of work on coronaviruses.
     Analysts at three IC elements remain unable to coalesce around either explanation without additional information, with some analysts favoring natural origin, others a laboratory origin, and some seeing the hypotheses as equally likely.
     Variations in analytic views largely stem from differences in how agencies weigh intelligence reporting and scientific publications, and intelligence and scientific gaps


    Declassified-Assessment-on-COVID-19-Origins.pdf
     
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  2. demosthenes

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    Of course it’s not mutually exclusive to say it wasn’t developed as a biological weapon and for there to be an accidental release. Both are concerns of people working with viruses.
     
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  3. duggers_dad

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    Well, if you knew you only had 24-48 hrs to live wouldn’t you want to catch up on episodes of Bluebloods ?

    Would you spit and rage if you found out they gave him Ivermectin ?
     
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  4. cocodrilo

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    I remember a medication that starts with R. I'm not going to look them up. The doctors saved him at Walter Reed. God saved him at Butler, PA. Walter Reed's and God's wills be done.
     
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  5. duggers_dad

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    Was this R drug Ritalin ? Trump needs to be calmed down. Even at the age of 78 he’s awake 19-20 hours a day.
     
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  6. cocodrilo

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    No, it was a drug for Covid. You know, a virus that doesn't exist.
     
  7. duggers_dad

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    You can pronounce a patient nearly dead, give him any random drug and watch him bound out of the hospital nearly the next day.

    This is especially easy to do when they don’t have anything to medicate for.
     
  8. cocodrilo

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    Over and out.
     
  9. duggers_dad

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    We’re obviously talking a deviously designed bioweapon here. The commonest symptom is “I feel fine” then … WHAM!
     
  10. QGator2414

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    Pretty sure it was remdesivir which is very expensive and did not work. But pharma benefited. And yes Trump touted it at the time like the politician he is. He was very average on Covid. Better than Biden. But he was played on Covid overall.
     
  11. vegasfox

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    Something similar happened to my Democrat brother after his 3rd jab. Heart rate fell to 20-40 beats/min from his normal 60 beats/min. Then his heart started beating up to 180 beats/min. Now he's on medication. My bro used to walk 6 miles/day. Was 6'-2" 185-190 pounds. Now weighs about 172. I told him the jab was toxic and potentially lethal. He listened to big gov't institutions instead and paid the price.
     
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  12. QGator2414

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    There are some here that are just too prideful to admit they were wrong.
     
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  13. duggers_dad

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    Lab-leakers think they have the Fauci’s dead to rights. But lab-leak only reinforces the idea that the virus is a real problem that needs to be solved, rather than a fear-based control narrative.
     
  14. gatorpa

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    Well let’s say China decided to get rid of the oldest, weakest, least productive and most costly segment of their population?
    The best way is such a virus.

    A make believe plague doesn’t kill people.
     
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  15. gatorpa

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    Actually if I recall correctly he was given steroids and Remdesivir both were available in most hospitals at the time.
     
  16. gatorpa

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    Or they were just tinkering with it and accidentally made it contagious for humans, sloppy quarantine protocols let it slip out of the lab.
     
  17. gatorpa

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    It worked for some. The sooner it was given the better the effect was.
     
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  18. Spurffelbow833

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    Most of what is classified probably isn't a threat to national security. National security justifies the existence of spy organizations, but secret keeping justifies the bloat. They're good jobs programs for the criminally insane, too. Colonel Flagg on M*A*S*H was no caricature.
     
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  19. 92gator

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    You're the biggest tin foil hatter around. Viruses don't exist, covid a hoax...

    Fyi: at least 2 of those 8-10 covid deaths i mentioned b4--ppl i knew personally who died of covid (breathing shut down so bad they had to be rushed to hospital, then (i know... the death knell...) put on ventilators...) were vocally cynical about the existence of covid, it's truth, etc. Macho macho men, prancing about, flouting the foolish fiction pimped by govmt psyops...

    They gone.

    Another couple friend of mine, through/with an organization we all pertain to, hosted another fellow member over night, as he came in town. With the covid. Didn't bother telling them. Didn't bother to mask up. Because "it's all made up BS."

    The couple--both of them--dead within a week, in turn, within a day of one another. Due to severe respiratory illness.

    So many coincidences, from my vantage point, it takes tin foil gullability, to deny covid.

    And that's not even talking about the number of ppl I know who got the vid, and lived (>5x the number of dead i knew). So many similar stories of ppl getting absolutely leveled.

    For my part, I had two forays with the 'vid--the vax leveled my ass for a day. Then I got it months later, after it had morphed into a far less devastating beast. It took me out of commission for a solid day. Which is saying a lot more than it sounds, bc I'm the type who never gets sick--at least never enough to miss work--and when I do get sick, I plow through it, with little visible disturbance. The vid knocked my ass out.

    So sorry Bubba, but your dismissal of it as a bad joke, simply does not gel with my real world experience.
     
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  20. vaxcardinal

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    Most likely a coincidence