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Trump bypasses protocol, gives top security clearance to anyone at will

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by coleg, Jan 21, 2025 at 11:51 AM.

  1. coleg

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    Have you heard of classified docs at MAL? Who placed them there? If you truly have zero concern for US secure documents, simply don't respond. I do and feel that the protocols have been created for valid reasons. The felon is bypassing those protocols.
     
  2. sierragator

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    Apparently none of that matters any more. Do not question the orange emperor.
     
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  3. AgingGator

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    And that’s crazy lib being crazy lib again. Can’t win the argument so just call people names. It’s what we’re all used to from your ilk. It’s not going to change, so all there is to do is point it out and laugh. Appropriate that your moniker is Chevy Chase. He had a great career portraying silliness like this. I guess Fletch really Lives.
     
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  4. mdgator05

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    So when you call people names, that is your admission that you can't win an argument? I'll keep that in mind.
     
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  5. AgingGator

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    Be my guest.
     
  6. CaptUSMCNole

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    Was Trump convicted of a crime for that incident? Was Biden or Clinton? I do not see how referring to Trump’s conviction as a felon for a state crime, has to do with the executive branch’s process for granting clearances.

    You would be wise to listen to @vaxcardinal on this topic and just wait for more information to come out. He has extensive knowledge of the process and the how and the why it was put in place.
     
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  7. coleg

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    After repeated requests, both you and the wise Vax have refused to enlighten us with this extensive knowledge as to how the felon's bypassing of protocols benefits the US interests. Your focus on the felon's state crimes does nothing to absolve his other indictments does it?
     
  8. VAg8r1

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    Maybe it's just me but I think providing access to the nation's most secure documents to persons who obviously shouldn't have access to those documents is much more significant than whether a visitor to the White House had cocaine. While neither is acceptable the former represents a threat to national security, the latter does not.
     
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  9. CaptUSMCNole

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    And we have explained to you that no one really knows what is gong on at this point. All you have is a couple articles claiming certain things and it has not been verified by anyone with actual knowledge of what is happening with the process. This is likely a speed up of granting of Interim Secret, and in some cases Interim TS clearances, to allow members of the Trump team to start working. Even if someone ends up being adjudicated to no being able to have a TS or Secret, they are still legally bound to not disclose any classified information that they have had access to. So until we actually find out what is going on, let's wait before freaking out about this.
     
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  10. coleg

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    So basically your hope is that the felon's incompetence and failure to in a timely fashion put his team into place for a SECOND term.... might not cause too many problems. Yeah, why worry about that stuff.
     
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    Freaking out is all some people have anymore.
     
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  12. CaptUSMCNole

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    You are assuming that the incompetence is on the Trump team based on one article. I do not think that a single source article is something I would put a lot of stock in. The counter argument is that Trump's campaign was professional run this time and so would his transition team and they have known that they had a better than 50% chance of winning this time around, so they would have been prepared.

    So maybe take a step back, realize a lot of these reporters do not know a lot about the this complicated process and how it is easy to make one side look "unprepared" by highlighting one small part of the process to someone unfamiliar with it.
     
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  13. g8orbill

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    Capt - they still are unable to come to terms with the fact that they lost- this is all they have
     
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  14. coleg

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    Seems the issue is widespread and here's several sources. see if you can put any stock in these. Feel free to provide sources extolling the transition.
     
  15. CaptUSMCNole

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    You have listed two sources. If there are more, please post them.
     
  16. coleg

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    You have listed zero sources if you have any please post them.
     
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    How Trump's transition could end up hamstringing his ...
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    Nov 27, 2024 — The Trump transition team has yet to sign key agreements with the Justice Department or General Services Administration, ...

    Just the first 4 on the list. There are more. Note two are different articles from the same source.
     
  18. OklahomaGator

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    Trump hiring blitz sets first-day hiring record with 1,300 staff appointees: ‘America expects results’

    Trump hiring blitz sets first-day hiring record with 1,300 staff appointees: 'America expects results'
     
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  19. VAg8r1

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    The reality is that Trump won the election. The reality is also that even more so than during his first term is throwing out norms because he can do so and in the case of awarding and/or pulling security clearances he is doing so because he can and very often to the detriment of national security. It's been said that you get the government that you deserve and in the case of Trump that's going to be massive voter regret.

    Bill, what do you think of Trump's decision to pull John Bolton's personal security detail as well as his security clearance. In case you may not be aware Biden provided Bolton with a Secret Service security detail because the Iranians put out a hit on him and that did so as retribution for Bolton's role in taking out Qasem Soleimani a general in the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and by the way Soleimani's assassination was an act for which Trump took credit near the end of his first term. I was never a fan of John Bolton but the act demonstrates how pettiness of Trump who pulled the protection as retribution for Bolton's criticism of him when he for reelection in 2020.
    Trump terminates John Bolton’s security detail within hours of taking office