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Debate: Billy Carson vs. Christian Wes Huff on Jesus, the Bible, and Christianity

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Contra, Jan 18, 2025 at 3:03 PM.

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  1. Jan 21, 2025 at 5:08 PM #101
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  2. Jan 21, 2025 at 5:10 PM #102
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    Well, we don’t have videos. How would we know either were factual ?
     
  3. Jan 21, 2025 at 5:29 PM #103
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    That's essentially what you do in every post, so. . . .
     
  4. Jan 21, 2025 at 5:32 PM #104
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    It's Doh! Get it right. And the only place for that clown is ignore.
     
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  5. Jan 21, 2025 at 5:33 PM #105
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    And why not, since you faux skeptics think you’ve got me over a barrel ?
     
  6. Jan 21, 2025 at 5:36 PM #106
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    No, we just think you're retarded.
     
  7. Jan 21, 2025 at 5:46 PM #107
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    Then prove that you’re not by answering my questions in #93.
     
  8. Jan 21, 2025 at 5:49 PM #108
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    I think the location of the landing spot of the ark has many hypotheses, but they are just that hypotheses. Every single one of those hypotheses could be proven false and the Ark could have landed somewhere else. The debates over things like that are inconsequential if those hypotheses are false but consequential if any of the hypotheses are true. I personally do not believe any of them are reliable, but I am not well read on these hypotheses. I could be wrong on my opinion here, but I suspect superstition could play a role in why some of these hypotheses developed.

    Nonetheless, a person who doubts a global flood, says in their heart “There is no God.” A global flood fits into the same category as things such as the creation of the world ex nihilo, the Israelites crossing the Red Sea, sticks turning into snakes, water gushing out of a rock in the middle of a desert (go research this one…there is a strong case they found the rock where this happened), mana coming down from heaven in the middle of a desert, water turning into wine, Jesus walking on water, the resurrection of Lazarus, the resurrection of Christ, Jesus ascending into heaven on a cloud, etc. You don’t believe any of these things would happen because they are extraordinary and supernatural. A global flood would belong in the same category as a supernatural event IMO.

    What I would press you on is atheists, agnostics, and Christians all believe in extraordinary things. Every worldview asserts extraordinary things, but whose worldview supports the belief in extraordinary things? Christianity is the worldview that is most consistent in its belief of the extraordinary. Naturalism as a philosophical vantage point is the least consistent with belief in extraordinary events. Evolutionary theory posits a series of extraordinary events that lead to human civilization. From my vantage point we all believe in the extraordinary, even atheists, but not all worldviews equally account for the extraordinary beliefs embedded in those worldviews.
     
  9. Jan 21, 2025 at 5:58 PM #109
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    I am. You win!

    Yea you!
     
  10. Jan 21, 2025 at 6:04 PM #110
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    God may be a metaphor for something, but I'm convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that the known (essentially infinite) universe was not created and constantly micromanaged by a humanized diety. Sorry, we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this and the idea of a worldwide flood.
     
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  11. Jan 21, 2025 at 6:15 PM #111
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    Fact: There is not enough existing water, or ice, or vapor, or hydrogen and oxygen to combine, on the planet to cause a global flood like described in the bible.

    Of course, a person with an unsupported opinion might tell you, without evidence, that God would whip up as water he wants, any time he wants, through the power of ... um ... uhh ... magic???
     
  12. Jan 21, 2025 at 6:31 PM #112
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    this is settled science. it's in Estes Park. Gotta park up high during a flood.
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    this also explains why there are gators in colo.

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  13. Jan 21, 2025 at 6:51 PM #113
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    Doesn't look large enough to house 14.7 million animals, let along enough food and water to feed them for over a month, you'd also have to think the amount of urine and shit they'd produce would sink any boat ... does the bible talk about the smell?

    Then we can talk about how the lack of genetic diversity, essentially every animal having a complete reset 4000 years ago, would show up in genealogy studies ... but it doesn't.

    Where did the water come from?

    Where did the water go?

    Why don't we find unexplainable whale fossils on the top of mountains?

    Where is the geological record in the strata?

    It didn't happen.
     
  14. Jan 21, 2025 at 7:28 PM #114
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    I had a scatch & sniff bible, but I quit S&Sing after the big load of horse jizz.

    "She lusted after lovers with genitals as large as a donkey's and emissions like those of a horse" Ezekiel 23:20.
     
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