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Biden declares ERA Amendment has passed

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by CaptUSMCNole, Jan 17, 2025 at 11:42 AM.

  1. vegasfox

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    My cousin Steve cited the ERA when he ran for Homecoming Queen at TCU. He won. Then he resigned because of death threats and a kidnapping plot. Happened before my time ~1973 but this is what my relatives tell me. My cousin wrote "F*** You" on the bottom of his sneakers and propped up his feet on the backs of chairs in the front row of lectures he attended. 1570 on his SAT. He started off as a liberal, now he's a conservative.

    This post might get me banned
    If so, nice chatting with you : )
     
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  2. vaxcardinal

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    He was a pitcher?
     
  3. vegasfox

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    Totally heterosexual.
     
  4. l_boy

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    the woman is the one having the baby - physically - so the comparison is apples and oranges. To assert that the male should in any scenario have an equal say as to whether a woman can endure a pregnancy in her own body is just nonsense.
     
  5. CaptUSMCNole

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    So to carry that idea to its logical conclusion, if a women chooses to have a child against the man's wishes, he should no longer be financially responsible for it?
     
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  6. g8orbill

    g8orbill Old Gator Moderator VIP Member

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    so who is concerned about the life if the unborn baby that women want the right to kill
     
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  7. uftaipan

    uftaipan GC Hall of Fame

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    Once again, we can argue what is just until we are blue in the face, but even you aren’t arguing the situation is equal.
     
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  8. uftaipan

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    Outside the scope of this debate.
     
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  9. tampajack1

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    That's my point. Speak to your audience.
     
  10. tampajack1

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    Yes. If the necessary 75% of the state legislatures approved the amendment, why can't the president declare the amendment to have passed? FYI, I don't know whether the 75% requirement has been satisfied
     
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    there was a time limit on the ERA being voted in by the States. It has long since passed. Most if not all the items in the bill have been voted in in other bills. However, joey lacks the power to say it is passed and now is part of the Constitution.
     
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  12. vegasfox

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    I found this "gay" radio broadcast from Dec 5 1973 where they talk about my cousin Steve getting elected Homecoming Queen. You can skip forward over the first 40% of the show to where they start talking about my cuz. I might have incorrectly called him a liberal when he was young. Probably more accurate to call him an anti-establishment iconoclastic troll. Steve's sister call me an iconoclast and lacuna calls me a troll so I guess it runs in the family. Steve's sister was on the TCU volleyball team and she answered the phone at the TCU alumni office. She had to listen to callers who in some cases were wishing for the death of her brother. According to this radio show cousin Steve's election as Homecoming Queen was a bigger story than the firing of the TCU football coach that season
    43: Gay and Jewish; the Male Homecoming Queen at Texas Christian University, 1973-12-05
     
  13. uftaipan

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    No, I was translating his words for you. That's what he was saying. It would not have been hard to Google "line of departure" or "condition one weapon" to appreciate his meaning in context. You made a snarky remark. You got a snarky response.
     
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  14. gatorpa

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    38 have approved it but not in the required time limit which was extended once.
    Furthermore in the time that the extra 3 states approved it 3 states reversed their approval.
    Seems that if it’s an open ended timely for yes votes states that change their view on it can reverse their decision.
     
  15. tampajack1

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    I just started doing a little research on this. It appears that it is an unresolved issue as to whether the equal rights amendment has been ratified. The American Bar Association says that it is part of the constitution. The theory is that there is any limitation on the time necessary to get ratification from enough state is unconstitutional. There is one amendment to the constitution involving congressional pay that took 200 years to get the requisite number of states to ratifify. I have a feeling that this matter will go to the United States Supreme Court, which would seem likely to then determine that the equal rights amendment has not been ratified. Going back to my request for a link was appropriate.
     
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    No, it isn’t, not even with the amended stance you have just expressed. Your request for a link was in respect to an assertion that the President does not have the authority to dictate that ERA is now the law of the land. And he doesn’t. The President, by design, plays no role in amending the Constitution. Maybe, as you say, the Supreme Court can rule it has been ratified. Maybe the Congress can. But the President cannot, and that is the issue here.
     
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  17. tampajack1

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    What I said dealt with whether the president can declare that the amendment has been ratified. it doesn’t seem that Congress has a role in declaring that the amendment has been ratified. It seems that the president can let the national archives (I believe) include in their records that the amendment has been ratified. My statement about the Supreme Court deals with whether there will be a challenge to the ratification. Obviously, if 38 states had immediately voted in favor of the amendment, there would’ve not been a viable challenge to the ratification, and the president or his administration to inform the national archives that the ERA amendment has been ratified as one of the amendments to the constitution. I am not saying anything more than that.
     
  18. gatorpa

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    Don’t forget there is the issue that 3 states who first approved ratification have since withdrawn that approval.

    Seems logical if there is an open ended time frame for a state to vote yes, then until it’s actually approved by 38 states that clock to change a vote is still ticking.