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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Jan 15, 2025.

  1. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    This is where project 2025 has the playbook in place and is effecting major structural changes in the way our decisions are to be made. They are targeting key administrative positions to replace seasoned professionals with highly partisan actors willing to act independent of rules and laws.

    Think things like what desi did using Florida funds on no bid contract to fly immigrants from texas to ?? but put that on steroids. Things that americans never thought they would see happen will become acceptable as civil servants do as told to preserve their positions and those that issue illegal orders are either fed into the trump grinder or given immunity for just doing what they were told.

    where else do I recall a defense of just doing what I was told? If doing what you are told is required, where does that leave us?

    senate approving a corrupt drunk pretty boy as sec def and now these ..my god, wth has americuh done

    the executive branch and the legislative branch are supposed to be independent, can we agree on that? should the potus be directing who is chairmen of HOR committees of intelligence?

    take control of intelligence organization oversight...check

    Speaker Johnson removes Mike Turner as House Intelligence Committee chairman

    WASHINGTON — Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., has informed Rep. Mike Turner, R-Ohio, that he will no longer be chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, according to a GOP leadership source and a Republican lawmaker familiar with the matter.

    The lawmaker said Turner told him Wednesday that he would not be staying on as head of the critical panel that conducts oversight of the U.S. intelligence community. The House Intelligence Committee chair is also a member of the so-called "Gang of Eight" congressional leaders who receive some of the most sensitive, classified briefings from the intelligence community.

    take control of who gets hired where. ..check

    take control of key appropriations positions...check

    targeting key command and control positions and appropriation positions to make them highly partisan that have never been partisan positions. they are not partisan positions so that the us government, and those that deal with it, have some sort of consistency over time. Inconsistency is very expensive and definitely note DOGE. want to move a few hundred million from school lunches to pay for detainee private prisons, I know a guy...need to get those pesky FAA fines cleared up... I know a guy...hindered by silly environmental rules...I know a guy

    Trump team asks three senior American career diplomats to resign: Report | World News - Business Standard

    Aides to President-elect Donald Trump have asked three senior career diplomats who oversee the US State Department's workforce and internal coordination to step down from their roles, two US officials familiar with the matter said, in a possible signal of deeper changes ahead for the diplomatic corps.

    The team overseeing the State Department's transition to the new administration, the Agency Review Team, has requested that Dereck Hogan, Marcia Bernicat and Alaina Teplitz leave their posts, the sources said.

    According to the State Department website, Hogan is the State Department's executive secretary, the official that manages the flow of information between department bureaus and with the White House.

    Bernicat is the director-general of the US Foreign Service and director of global talent leading the recruitment, assignment, and career development of the Department's workforce.
    Assistant Secretary Teplitz has been with the Department over three decades, serving overseas as well in Washington. Most recently, she has been implementing the duties of under secretary for management, which oversees more than a dozen bureaus responsible for issues from the budget to recruitment, procurement and human resources across the workforce.
    "These are not policy positions. This is all the mechanics of the bureaucracy," said Dennis Jett, a professor at Penn State's School of International Affairs who spent 28 years in the foreign service. "But if you want to control the bureaucracy, that's the way you do it
     
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  2. gator_jo

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    America will get what it deserves. Sadly, as an entire populace, we won't even have an awareness of what is happening.

    Hell, we just elected a felon who publicly told us lied to us that immigrants were eating dogs. Should we expect it to get better?


    Edit ; we actually elected a person who criminally tried to overturn an election. He held a rally to do so, for God's sake, on certification day after losing the election. And Americans still voted for him. We're a sad, abject populace.
     
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  3. G8trGr8t

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    those of us that did what we could to prevent it do not deserve it
     
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  4. ursidman

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    Someone will be along in a few minutes to tell us how this is all the Dems fault. (I am NPA but will never support any R who supports trump)
     
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  5. GatorTheo

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    I'm NPA too but haven't voted for a dem since Jimmy Carter.

    The Biden administration did a lousy job covering up the leftwing agenda. That's why Trump is back in office.

    [​IMG]
     
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  6. sierragator

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    Yep, the line of DV offenders everywhere " look what you made me do".
     
  7. Spurffelbow833

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    They didn't cover it up. They openly promoted it!
     
  8. GatorTheo

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    That's what I'm saying. They would have fared better in the election if they had covered it up.
     
  9. CaptUSMCNole

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    Marcia Bernicat is The Director General of the Foreign Service, which is a POTUS appointed position, ie political appointee and not a career service position. Every new Admin has the right to request their resignation.
    Director General of the Foreign Service - Wikipedia

    It appears the position Alaina Teplitz is a political appointee as well, since the position seems to turn over with every new Admin:
    Assistant Secretary of State for Administration - Wikipedia

    Cannot tell if Dereck Hogan's position is or not.

    So it looks like at least two of the three were career civil servants at State that took political appointment positions and are now being asked to resign. They can probably apply for SES level positions at State again but they knew that they would likely be in this position if the White House change parties.

    The removal of Mike Turner is concerning. I'd like to know who is going to be the replacement.
     
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    I thought he did a good job. I had confidence in him.
     
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  11. citygator

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    I don’t really care about Republicans corruption. That is what the people voted for. Fleecing idiots who enable their own fleecing doesn’t really get my sympathies up. I will enjoy it the whole time.
     
  12. ursidman

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    Correct me if i’m wrong but i detect a smidge of jaded cynicism in your recent posts :):)
     
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  13. G8trGr8t

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    people voted for cheaper eggs and lower rent/gas and against a candidate with the personality of a wet piece of cardboard. they aren't getting any of those things they want. the fools bought the story that the dems were responsible for inflation and the dems were too foolish to dispel that notion.
     
  14. G8trGr8t

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    controlling and using the intelligence apparatus of the US to further his personal ambitions and those of your billionaire (and foreign) handlers doesn't concern you?
     
  15. sierragator

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    Of course it is a concern, but that ship has sailed. The coronation/inauguration is in four days. Some guardrails last time, this time: none.
     
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  17. G8trGr8t

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    Crawford opposed [COLOR=var(--color-progressive,#36c)]Obergefell v. Hodges, the Supreme Court ruling that [COLOR=var(--color-progressive,#36c)]same-sex marriage[/COLOR] bans are unconstitutional.[COLOR=var(--color-progressive,#36c)][23][/COLOR][/COLOR]
    In December 2020, Crawford was one of 126 Republican members of the [COLOR=var(--color-progressive,#36c)]House of Representatives to sign an [COLOR=var(--color-progressive,#36c)]amicus brief[/COLOR] in support of [COLOR=var(--color-progressive,#36c)]Texas v. Pennsylvania[/COLOR], a lawsuit filed at the [COLOR=var(--color-progressive,#36c)]United States Supreme Court[/COLOR] contesting the results of the [COLOR=var(--color-progressive,#36c)]2020 presidential election[/COLOR], in which [COLOR=var(--color-progressive,#36c)]Joe Biden[/COLOR] defeated[COLOR=var(--color-progressive,#36c)][24][/COLOR] Trump. The Supreme Court declined to hear the case on the basis that Texas lacked [COLOR=var(--color-progressive,#36c)]standing[/COLOR] under [COLOR=var(--color-progressive,#36c)]Article III of the Constitution[/COLOR] to challenge the results of an election held by another state.[COLOR=var(--color-progressive,#36c)][25][/COLOR][COLOR=var(--color-progressive,#36c)][26][/COLOR][COLOR=var(--color-progressive,#36c)][27][/COLOR][/COLOR]

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    So... if none of that happens, are you going to be upset that you can't tell people "I told you so"?
    Sounds like you want it to happen.
     
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  19. G8trGr8t

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    will the pubs in the house grow a spine now or cower back to the corner and do as the exalted orange one commands? separation of powers? constitution? come on conservatives. Do you believe that the executive branch should dictate to the legislative branch? Is that originalist thinking?

    'He’s mad': GOP reps say ousted intel chair now 'never going to vote' for Johnson’s bills

    House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) is in hot water with a significant portion of the House Republican Conference over his decision to remove the chairman of a high-profile committee.

    On Thursday, Johnson announced that Rep. Mike Turner (R-Ohio) would not be chairman of the House Intelligence Committee in the 119th Congress, instead choosing Rep. Rick Crawford (R-Ark.) as his replacement. Now, some Republican lawmakers are telling Fox News that Turner is rebelling against the speaker, and that Johnson may not be able to count on his vote for future legislation — which could be a significant complication given Republicans' razor-thin House majority.

    "He dragged Mike along," one unnamed "senior House Republican" told Fox News congressional correspondent Chad Pergram. "It wasn't a fair process." “(Johnson) cost himself some political capital,” another Republican confided to Pergram. “Mike’s never going to vote for another f—ing thing around here again,” a GOP lawmaker said anonymously. “He’s mad.”
     
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  20. FutureGatorMom

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    Not sure what the "leftwing agenda" means. If you call putting legislation to finally fix our roads , bridges, installing more internet to rural areas, which created more jobs, and creating a path to produce chips here instead of depending on China, something he needed to cover up, that just doesn't make sense.

    Trump is back in office because Americans were still paying high prices for gas, groceries and housing. Four years was not enough to fix the mess trumph left. It took Obama 8 years to fully recover from the great recession gift W gave us. trumph is responsible in part for the higher gas prices and the housing issue. Deregulation is not always a great idea and he deregulated the real estate industry by lifting the wait time for corporations to purchase new listings. This put buyers at a disadvantage and especially first time home buyers. Supply has been crazy low for 4 years.

    He went to OPEC and asked them to cut back on production to stop the oil price war with Russia. While there were positives about that move, it contributed to the rise of the cost of gas. Biden had nothing to do with it.

    You all might not want to admit this, but big corporations that control most of our food at the store, are price gouging us. There is no longer a reason for the higher prices. Harris was going to implement legislation to hold them accountable. Trumph has said nothing of the sort, as a matter of fact, he recently said that "its' hard to bring them back down once they go up". Not if you call them to the carpet on it! It is what it is.

    Also, if you haven't voted for a dem since Carter, you're now a republican. I haven't voted for a republican since W. I apparently am moving closer to being a dem.