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Greenland PM open to talking with Trump

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Jan 11, 2025 at 4:28 PM.

  1. 92gator

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    Here ya go:

    War in Ukraine


    I'll PM you with payment instructions for the $1,000.00

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  2. 92gator

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    Lol @ your team = conservatism.

    I guess your idea of being on a team is to shit all over your own.

    Better you own your flaming libby colors, than keep pretending to be something you categorically are not.

    As for Ukraine Russia--converesely, i ask: why then do yall equate ambivalence and resistance to spending on Ukraine, with support for Russia?

    If i pollute my avatar with Ukraine blue n yeller, and still remain ambivalent about the war and resist spending, will that make me groovy with the libbies?
     
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  3. docspor

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    tell me how that shows I support military or financial support for Ukraine & I’ll send the $ tomorrow
     
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  4. 92gator

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    Plank posted about how our involvement in the war was driving India, China and Russia together, to trade with each other in non- dollar currency was a huge mistake.

    You replied that cost/price was no issue agsinst right vs wrong.

    = you advocating for our spending (on Ukraine), bc it's "right" (and Russia v Ukraine = right v wrong).

    Please may make $1,000 donation to St. Jude Cancer in lieu of payment to me.
     
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  5. docspor

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    if you truly believe that that is what I was advocating, send your Venmo & I’ll send the $ tonight. I trust you’ll get it to st judes
     
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  6. vegasfox

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    Colonized countries benefited economically. For the colonizing countries it was the opposite. Per Molton Friedman based on math performed by one of the founders of the Univ. of Chicago's school of economics
     
  7. vegasfox

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    Not really. Thete's a lot of Scandinavian blood in Greenland's Inuit. Some have blue eyes. I don't see how they'd be better off with a couple dozen mosques
     
  8. mdgator05

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    Yeah, third hand accounts of somebody not even named. On the other hand, here is actual research, utilizing methods to deal with selection bias.

    https://www.cato.org/research-brief...nstitutions-economic-growth-development-india
     
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  9. coleg

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    Derp. That this a terrible logical conclusion. From that response poster might be assigned as having a position on international fiscal policy, but absolutely can't be held to advocating for US spending on aid to Ukraine.
     
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  10. mdgator05

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    Wow, this is dark. To find "enthusiastic" Greenlanders to back them, Trump Jr. just bribed a bunch of homeless people with food to put on hats and pose in a picture with him.

    Donald Trump Jr.’s Ridiculous Greenland Trip Just Took a Dark Turn | The New Republic

    Seems on brand. Enjoy sanewashing that one...
     
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  11. sierragator

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    History will repeat itself.... Alaska was once Stewards folly. Greenland is more than just strategic in a military level investment. If the people want to make a deal with Trump, then so be it. We all know the Chinese and the Russia are snooping around their land and right now we all Greenland has.

    Denmark's military is a joke. And so is European NATO without the U.S.A. Plus we already have an American military base on Greenland. I think we can and will strike a deal with that nation.
     
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  13. vegasfox

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    The history of colonialism is that in all cases the mother country got less direct and indirect economi benefits than the cost of maintaining the colonized country per Nobel laureate Milton Friedman

    The economist I referred to in my other post on this subject was the great Jacob Viner, one of the 3 founders of the Univ. of Chicago school of economics and one of the great economists of the 20th century. Viner famously studied the British colonization of India.

    1) When Britain controlled India in the 19th and early 20th centuries, the people of India made real economic progress.

    2) In the 1920s and 1930s when India resisted and fought against colonial rule its economy stagnated.

    3)After India gained independence in 1948 until the time of Milton Friedman's speech below in 1978, India lost ground economically and food production decreased.

    In the video below Milton Friedman schools a radicalized young man at Cornell in 1978. Skip ahead to 5:30 if short on time. Video is short (8:43).
     
  14. mdgator05

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    Yeah, that is largely false. They might not teach this in Russia, but British colonization of India was extremely uneven. Some areas were fully controlled by the British, others were controlled locally in terms of domestic policy. Once you control for selection factors, the regions that the British actually controlled largely fell behind as the British focused on extracting wealth for their betterment. That gap persists to this day.

    Overall, India fell behind significantly in economic performance during colonialism. India's GDP as a percentage of world GDP fell from 16% in 1820 to about 4% in 1947. It is now back up to 8.5%.

    Friedman correctly pointed out that India's economy in the post-colonial period was too bureaucratic and too centrally planned. However, the notion that colonialism was "good" for them is largely nonsense, even setting aside the issues related to self-determination.

    Of course, it is interesting that you are advocating for a bigger government policy (colonialism is massive government), which Friedman also opposed for that reason.
     
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  15. vegasfox

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    As Milton Friedman clearly said in the video, under British rule during the 19th century and up through the early part of the 20th century life improved quite a bit for the people of India. When the people resisted and fought the British in the 1920s and 1930s India's economy stagnated. When India gained independence in 1948 their economy did much worse over at least the next 3 decades.

    If you weren't trying to be deceptive you would have looked at how the lives of India's people improved during the 19th century up to around 1920, before its people rebelled against British rule.

    You are clever however. I'll give you that. For your deceptive efforts, which would fool most people, I award you half a potato : )