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Meta ends fact checking - Zuch promises free speech

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Jan 7, 2025.

  1. G8tas

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    I wonder if Musk will stop banning and removing check marks from conservatives that question his motives
     
  2. duggers_dad

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    I’m witnessing more meddling X these days than on Faceback.
     
  3. rivergator

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    Certainly not the most vital factcheck I've ever read. But it seems she did give the impression she simply worked her way up through the company from secretary to CEO ... when there's a lot stuff in between, other jobs, more education including an MBA, etc. Her receptionist job was meant to be a temporary thing before she moved onto other things. She was already a Stanford grad.
    That's like saying I worked my up from mowing lawns to the exalted position of Too Hot mod, ignoring my stints as a cat-herder and guidance counselor for troubled teens with anger management issues and learning disabilities. Not to mention my PhD in moderology.

    As far as factchecking her bio, she was running for president and it checked claims she'd made on the campaign trail. Just like factchecking Obama's story about his mother's cancer, which also go three Pinocchios.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...rance-dispute/2012/03/18/gIQAdDd4KS_blog.html
     
  4. CaptUSMCNole

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    No one believed that Fiornia did not work her way up, it is implied as no one would actually think HP picked a secretary to run their company. To believe the fact check, you would have to assume HP would.
     
  5. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    No. The impression is not that they picked a secretary to run the company. She claimed that she worked her way up from a lowly secretary to CEO. She was the daughter of a law school dean who was a deputy US attorney general and other high roles. She was was already a Stanford grad and was not starting her business career when she took a job as a receptionist as a temporary gig after she dropped out of law school and then moved onto other things.
    We all had low level jobs in our early days. I didn't work my way up from dishwasher at Howard Johnson or picking oranges.
     
  6. Gator515151

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    It happens, my dad never graduated high school and started out as a machinist helper in a box factory. 10 years later he was Executive VP of one of the largest corporations in Florida.
     
  7. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    That's impressive.
     
  8. CaptUSMCNole

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    So Fionria did work as a Secretary or not? So her accomplishments are all due to her father?

    What Fionria was saying is that she started out at the bottom, which she did, and then ended up in the top job. You seem to be implying that she took over her family firm and was always going to be in charge of it.
     
  9. rivergator

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    Good grief.
    So Fionria did work as a Secretary or not? Yes
    So her accomplishments are all due to her father? No.
    You seem to be implying that she took over her family firm and was always going to be in charge of it. Didn't say anything remotely close to that.

    One more time. We had all low level jobs that were never going to be our career. The fact that we eventually got more education, moved onto our careers and higher level jobs doesn't mean we worked our way up from mowing lawns or washing dishes.
     
  10. CaptUSMCNole

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    Then why bring up her father in the fact check? When she dropped out of law school she took a job someone with a college degree typically would not and she also worked as a secretary during her time as an undergrad. Why claim that her claim deserves 3 Pinocchio's?

    It seems to me that this was an attempt by Washington Post to claim that since she came from a upper middle class family, her job as a secretary really does not count. So she should not be able to claim she was a secretary because real secretaries have to be middle aged women who have always done secretarial work. This is the problem with Fact Checkers like this, it does not matter what the facts are, it matters how they assume people understand those facts and then they fact check the assumptions that they themselves make and not the actual facts.
     
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