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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Jan 11, 2025 at 7:16 AM.

  1. Gatorrick22

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    Fauci needs no pardon from Biden if he's innocent.

    Let's see if he gets one of those preemptive blanket pardons. Then maybe you can put two and two together.
     
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  2. workemsillyg8rs

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    You mean a lead epidemiologist/immunologist who was absolutely incorrect on all fronts. Yes that one. You are not super bright are you? You were projecting when talking about sub 80 IQ’s.
     
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  3. demosthenes

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    You didn’t answer the question.

    Also, a pardon has benefits beyond the recipient having actually committed any crime, such as forestalling malicious prosecution.
     
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  4. Gatorrick22

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    Please... you did not just go there... not after what Trump went though. Trump would already be in jail, if he had really broken a law, with Biden in the WH.
     
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  5. slayerxing

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    I only wish the world was that simple. Unfortunately we have strategic interests across the globe and ignoring those interests can cause significant pain and disruption at home. The Fortune 500 just as one little simplistic example earns 41% of their 18 trillion in revenue overseas. Gotta keep shit running the way we want it around the globe to protect that kind of business. Can’t just sit at home on our hands.
     
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  6. demosthenes

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    So you don’t want to answer the question? Fine.
     
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  7. Gatorrick22

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    Malicious prosecution? That's a Dem lawfare thing. But if he is guilty of something REAL, gain-of-function? Then he will have the right to defend himself in the court of law. Not sure weaponizing a virus to attack humans is legal.

    That is the only reason he should be worried. That will NOT be persecution, but it will indeed be legal prosecution. We shall see...
     
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  8. g8orbill

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    I have no doubts Fauci played fast and loose with the facts but unless you have corroborating evidence- this is probably a waste of time
     
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  9. demosthenes

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    No, the question was whether you actually believe Fauci and the Dems tried to kill the country, economy and its people.
     
  10. Gatorrick22

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    That will be up to the courts. You already know my OPINION on that.
     
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  11. workemsillyg8rs

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    Everyone step back! Slayerxing has cracked the code! We have to give a trillion dollars to Ukraine in order to keep the Fortune 500 upright! It is up to the US to keep them going.

    Listen dude, I have been in finance for 30 years. I understand global economics. There is no reason on this planet that we need to be sending billions to Ukraine when we have people living in tents in our own country. Wake up! If your roof was leaking would you fix it first? Let me answer it for ya. You would! Jeez!
     
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  12. slayerxing

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    you’ve worked in finance for 30 years and learned nothing then apparently. The Fortune 500 in 1990 earned about 2 trillion in revenue. It didn't even exist until the 1950s. The free market has changed the world - as you should well know having worked in finance.
    But having worked in finance you probably don't know your history - and bottom line, oligarchy and democracy don't mix (going all the way back to Athens and Sparta) - if the US want's to maintain the world order that has seen huge growth across all sectors because of "free market capitalism", they must maintain a certain world order. And that world order can't include world wars, or big regional conflicts, or a giant oligarchy interrupting business. So yes, spending billions (a meager amount compared to the amounts at stake if Russian influence expands), is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. In other words, it is absolutely worth the investment, because not spending that money would have far greater costs down the road. Sorry you don't see it, but in my experience, finance bros don't have a lot of vision.

    Edit - And I want to add that even if the US wasn't spending that money in Ukraine Republicans would be bitching about spending it on poor people - so don't cry me any fake rivers about saving people from tent cities - that is not what republicans do.
     
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  13. workemsillyg8rs

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    So you think that the United States owes the 500 largest companies in the world 10 of billions of taxpayer dollars to protect THEIR investments? Where do you come up with this drivel? The war in Ukrane is good for one thing, making bad guys a lot of money. Zelensky is a thief. If you believe that this war is anything but a money grab then you need to do some research. Isn’t it interesting how Zelensky suddenly believes that Trump will quickly end the war once he is in office. What that really means is that the gravy train is about to stop and it is time to end the stalemate that could have been ended long ago. Us finance guys can also be historians. If only our politicians were, maybe we would have avoided many useless conflicts trying to police the world. However, the business of war is quite lucrative for the wealthy at the expense of the poor.

    Hold Ukraine accountable for corruption, misspent aid

    Zelensky says Ukraine war will end once Trump takes power
     
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  14. slocala

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    This is a good topic. What would you propose Trump and Republicans Congress do to end homelessness, improve social safety net, address mental health and drug addiction, and wealth inequality?
     
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  15. ajoseph

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    Either way … I’m gonna be a watching with my popcorn.
     
  16. duggers_dad

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    It’s hard to avoid the suspicion that Biden is simply, spitefully sabotaging a Trump administration on the way out.
     
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    I rarely agree in things political with you, but this is one of those times. I’m not sure sabotage is the right word, but Biden sure seems to be doing everything in his power to annoy Trump at every opportunity he has.
     
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    Cool. It's not like Trump actually cares about America. He'll bash any and every person "target-worthy" in a legitimate crisis. He'll sell influence in his our government to any billionaire willing to donate, or any nation willing to contribute to him or meddle in the election.

    Trump is not working for America, and should be opposed.
     
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  19. slayerxing

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    We’ve teamed up with criminals and terrorists before, I doubt Zelenskyy is any worse than anyone else we’ve ever supported.

    Regarding big business, the U.S. “owes” them nothing. I’m still furious that the big banks tanked the economy and we had to bail them out for our own good back during the financial crisis. I hate how reliant we are on huge corporations. But we are reliant on them. Denying that is just magical thinking. And that system is highly reliant on a western world order. I don’t “like” it. But to turtle shell into our own borders would ultimately make our lives significantly harder.

    If you’re ok with that then sure - let’s turtle.
     
  20. Gatorrick22

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    Wealth inequality is a communist tenet... Stop with that communist crap already. Hence, we should never worry about the jobs and the pay people freely choose by which to live.

    Sending out tax dollars to Ukraine is a European problem, let them pay for it. Not our obligation... not our war.
     
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