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Trump blames Biden and California Gov. Gavin Newsom for deadly wildfires

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by VAg8r1, Jan 8, 2025 at 11:19 PM.

  1. vegasfox

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    Alex Jones has a take
     
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  2. G8tas

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    Isn't he the same guy that lied about Sandy Hook?
     
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  4. GatorFanCF

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    Good point. I guess when it is your money you make wise choices. Compare this to LA County who CUT their Fire Department budget by $18M

    The headline is likely misleading. Insurance policies are legal contracts usually for one year duration. State Farm likely non-renewed policies in accordance with their contract and State law. Cancel sounds like they did it at the last minute vs non-renewal requires advanced notice
     
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  5. ursidman

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  6. WC53

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  8. mdgator05

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    So cutting other government spending to raise spending on police is bad now?
     
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  9. VAg8r1

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    While you are technically correct, homeowners who lost their insurance have still been screwed. By the way it's not just California as I'm sure that you are aware a significant number of homeowners in Florida are experiencing a similar situation with the companies providing their homeowner's insurance. One example:
     
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    Most people don’t likely shop every year for this type of insurance, so if you’ve been with an insurer for 10, 20 or more years - and the insurer sends out a letter that the homeowner won’t be renewed or are exiting an area, I think most people would call that their insurance getting “canceled” - despite the reality of them also being annual contracts.

    I guess it was a smart business move, but a lot of people probably screwed if they didn’t act fast enough (and even if they did, that just means the new insurer is screwed or may have language in their policy about paying in the first few months of a brand new policy, which would kick it back to the homeowner being screwed).
     
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  11. demosthenes

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    I’d love to know what the true story is regarding the budget. My latest understanding is that there was a cut to the increase in the budget, not that 2024’s budget was less than 2023’s. But my cursory searches haven’t yielded citable sources on the budget numbers.
     
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  12. VAg8r1

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    Agree. While he was technically correct for all intents and purposes non-renewal is the same as cancellation.
     
  13. VAg8r1

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    Reminds me of the criticism that the New Orleans mayor received from right-wing media for not utilizing the city's school busses to evacuate residents while completely ignoring the fact the busses were under the control of the Orleans Parish School District, a completely separate entity from the city government and not under the control of the mayor.
     
  14. vaxcardinal

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    So are you implying that the New Orleans mayor did not have any responsibility for the recent events there or are you just providing a data point for something that happened 20 years ago?
     
  15. OklahomaGator

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    The mayor might have not had direct authority over the OPSD but nothing prevented him from calling them and asking for help.
     
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    I'm old enough to remember when red state North Carolina got flooded terribly, and there was a 16-page thread largely compromised of blue-state leaners, who wanted to criticize every level of government involved.

    Because red state.

    That happened, right?
     
  17. ATLGATORFAN

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    Super interesting 2022 article from Cal. Too bad they didn’t learn from their mistakes. Wonder why they chose to not do control
    Burns

    How the Indigenous practice of ‘good fire’ can help our forests thrive


    Ask the Honorable Ron W. Goode, Tribal Chairman of the North Fork Mono Tribe, what’s missing from the land and he will tell you it’s fire.

    It may be a contentious subject, especially given California’s recent traumatic wildfires. “But I need to talk to you about fire,” Goode says.

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    Ron Goode leads a cultural burn at the Jack Kirk estate in Mariposa, California. Credit: Sinead Santich
    “Many of the bushes that we’re now burning haven’t actually been burned for about one hundred and twenty years,” Goode said while conducting a burn on the Jack Kirk estate in Mariposa, California. “And they’re crying. They want fire, they want to be restored.”


    Meanwhile in totally unrelated climate boondoggle news, they spend hundreds of of millions electrifying a port that was working fine and chose to not build a single reservoir after voting in prop 1 in 2014 which specifically called for the building of multiple reservoirs

    but yeah. The decision of Cali politicians has nothing to do with the spread of yet another wildfire in Southern California.


    Port of Los Angeles receives unprecedented $400-million grant to electrify operations

    https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_1,_Water_Bond_(2014)
     
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  18. VAg8r1

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    When you mentioned the mayor of New Orleans I assumed that you were referring to the city's inadequate response to Hurricane Katrina since it was a natural disaster like the wildfires in Southern California . On second thought I guess you were referring to the terrorist attack 10 days ago and the city's failure to properly deploy the anti-terrorist bollards. I guess you could blame the mayor since she had ultimate responsibility although I doubt that she actually made the decision as to how the bollards should have been deployed.
     
  19. OklahomaGator

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    I was thinking it was in response to the hurricane as well.
     
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