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SCOTUS refuses to stay Trump's NY sentencing tomorrow 5-4.

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorJMDZ, Jan 9, 2025.

  1. VAg8r1

    VAg8r1 GC Hall of Fame

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    If he was above the law why did he need a pardon in the first place? By the way acceptance of a pardon requires an admission of guilt on the part of the subject of the pardon. Trump was able to proclaim his innocence because he according to him he did nothing wrong. It was all a witch hunt.
     
  2. workemsillyg8rs

    workemsillyg8rs GC Legend

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    Access to a pardon is what made him above the law in the first place. He admitted guilt knowing that he would not have to suffer any consequences. His father also bestowed a blanket pardon upon him that covers him for all crimes committed for a defined period of time. In the event that these crimes are uncovered, he will not have to plead guilty. I am sure that he will proclaim his innocence knowing that he cannot be prosecuted for them because he is above the law.

    Trump believes he is innocent, we will find out if this was a witch hunt when he appeals.
     
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  3. GatorJMDZ

    GatorJMDZ gatorjack VIP Member

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    My post from another thread.:

    That is likely not the law. That concept is sourced from a 1915 SCOTUS opinion, Burdict v. U.S. The language appearing to make that requirement has recently been held to be dicta, language that is not part of the actual ruling itself and, therefore, not controlling on other courts.

    That was holding in Lorance v. Commandant, a Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals case. Lieutenant Lorance was convicted of murder for ordering his platoon to open fire on 3 Afghans, killing two of them.

    "For the reasons provided above, we hold that Lorance’s acceptance of the presidential pardon did not constitute a legal confession of guilt or a waiver of his habeas rights, nor did it leave the court without a live case or controversy. The Court reverses the district court’s dismissal of Lorance’s habeas petition and remands for further proceedings."

    https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/mypmnoxykvr/pardon.pdf[/QUOTE]
     
  4. GatorJMDZ

    GatorJMDZ gatorjack VIP Member

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    Nope. You obviously didn't read the document the judge released earlier in the week. Just kind of shooting from the hip, there?
     
  5. workemsillyg8rs

    workemsillyg8rs GC Legend

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    The judge sentenced him to exactly what he should have. Nothing. What an absolute waste of money this entire trial was.
     
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