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Musk, Kennedy disagree on weight-loss drugs

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by rivergator, Dec 29, 2024.

  1. duggers_dad

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    I’ll drip feed you: iatrogenic.
     
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    Ironically, the medical doctors were the original quacks. Also, layout does not invalidate a study.

    But I’m grateful for the opportunity to clarify what I mean by “error.” I suspect that it may be an error to administer chemo, radiation, ventilation, antivirals, biopsies and exploratory surgeries, statins, antivirals, anti-hypertensives, bariatric surgery and I could go on. Oh, and certainly vaccines.

    I’m talking standards of care. I’m talking the very paradigm.

    To your question as to how many have died by not following a doctor’s orders, I would want to know the nature of the orders.

    Of possible interest: a million cancer cases were said to have been missed, in the U.K., during 2020-21 when hospitals were essentially turned into Covid facilities and people encouraged to stay home.

    One million in the U.K. translates to millions in the U.S. Yet, cancer deaths were said to be down over that same period.

    Things that make you go hmmm …
     
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    Novel idea: trust professionals, not conspiracy theorist environmental lawyers or dime store Howard Hughes.
     
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  4. gatorpa

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    So are you actually suggesting that patients who were never seen and had cancer should count as “missed” cases of cancer?
     
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    I gather you chose not to read the article that appears to support my contention.

    Healthcare kills.
     
  8. gatorpa

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    No I read it, it doesn’t support your assertion that cancer not diagnosed because a patient wasn’t seen is a medical error resulting in death.

    Some who never saw a Dr. did not receive care thus healthcare didn’t kill.

    Consider how many people would be dead in the absence of our health care system.

    Oh that’s right just exercise and eat right and you’ll never die.