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joey's robust economy was not really so robust

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Jan 5, 2025 at 9:52 AM.

  1. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    So you don't really care about the truth of something just its usefulness politically?
     
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  2. PITBOSS

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  3. citygator

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    Charlotte
  4. chemgator

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    Wouldn't be the first time the American people were wrong and taken in by a con-man. Are you still waiting on your money from that Nigerian prince?
     
  5. chemgator

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    Stop buying eggs at Bloomingdales?
     
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  6. demosthenes

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    You clearly have no clue the purpose of H-1Bs, its limitations, nor how it inadequately serves our country’s needs. Guessing you saw Elon mention them and now think it’s the standard for our immigration system.
     
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  7. chemgator

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    TPS is not quite as critical to the issue as TDS. If they are suspected of TDS, Trump's medical officials will have them removed immediately, without serving them cat, dog, or goose as a last meal. Being able to diagnose TDS is the top requirement of Trump's surgeon general.
     
  8. gator_jo

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    The circular (non) debate continues to be as childish as it has been for the 8+ years that Trump's been telling his lies.

    Right now we're in the "lies and dishonesty about Biden from fake news sites" stage.

    This should last a year, then we'll be in the "excuse-making for Trump's failure" stage.

    That will probably run concurrently to the "Trump commits crime" stage.

    Then, it's probably safe to assume the Trump supporters, and Trump himself, will try to lie to the country about what we witnessed for the past few years.

    Hopefully they don't attack our own government again, at least.
     
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  9. PITBOSS

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    Below is a different perspective from the op “Heritage Foundation”

    “President Trump is inheriting an economy that is about as good as it ever gets,” said Mark Zandi, chief economist of Moody’s Analytics. “The U.S. economy is the envy of the rest of the world, as it is the only significant economy that is growing more quickly post-pandemic than prepandemic.”

    and roaring stock markets finished their best two years in a quarter-century.

    many Americans do not perceive the country to be doing as well as the data suggests, either because they do not see it in their own lives, they do not trust the statistics or they accept the dystopian view promoted by Mr. Trump and amplified by a fragmented, choose-your-own-news media and online ecosphere.“


    Trump Sees the U.S. as a ‘Disaster.’ The Numbers Tell a Different Story.

    WSJ….

    https://www.wsj.com/finance/stocks/stocks-on-pace-for-best-two-years-in-a-quarter-century-c5b5f9b3
     
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  11. dangolegators

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    So people like Trump should be punished for employing undocumented immigrants?
     
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  12. OklahomaGator

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    I believe the company is the one that pays the fines when that happens.
     
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  13. madmax

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    Another guy who posts here told me that the US had massive consumer debt in 1980, 2000, 2008 and now. Recession, recession, recession and recession.

    Is he right? He's kind of a genius in his spare time.
     
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  14. dangolegators

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    The company that Trump owns?
     
  15. OklahomaGator

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    Yes, just like if Tyson Foods was fined for using illegal immigrants, the company pays the fines, the stockholders are not imprisioned.
     
  16. dangolegators

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    Who said anything about being imprisoned?
     
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  17. citygator

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    That guy would be even more of a genius if he used google.

    Household Debt to GDP for United States

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  18. mdgator05

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    Not really. Sounds like the guy might not be too bright. You should probably tell him to click on this link and click "max" to find out that consumer debt as a proportion of GDP rose pretty consistently from 1952 to 2007 and has fallen since then (likely a result of changes in the housing market and the nature of credit).

    United States Households Debt To GDP
     
  19. G8trGr8t

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    Fear, misinformation, and another terrible dem candidate won the election.
     
  20. mdgator05

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    I live in the same state you do. Paid $9.49 for two dozen large cage free, organic brown eggs yesterday. Wegmans FTW.