Netanyahu said ~1996 that the best move for Israel was regime change for the countries that expressed support for the Palestinians. He wanted the US to attack Somalia, Sudan Lebanon, Libya, Iran Iraq and Libya. Shortly after 9/11 Wesley Clark saw a list of these same countries when he visited the Pentagon. The plan was to attack all 7 countries within 5 years. Syria was supposed to be attacked in 2003. The insurgency in Iraq put these plans on hold. War in Syria and Libya was delayed until 2011. Did Israel know the Twin Towers would be hit by jets? In all probability yes. Mossad agents near the Twin Towers were waiting for the planes to hit and delighted in the attack. Google "dancing Israelis." Netanyahu has said that Americans are easily manipulated. Look at the people who post here. Democrats and Republicans put on their Monica Lewinsky kneecaps when Israel/AIPAC comes a'callin. Should America continue to be Israrl's butt boy as it has since 1996? Or do you disagree with my observation? Is the Israel lobby so powerful this post will get me banned? : ) The Israel lobby is so powerful that many congressmen will acknowledge privately that it can't be opposed (per Pat Buchanan). Do you think this post is anti-semitic or something that should be discussed?
The Trump administration likely the most Zionist in US history. Hegseth in particular is a nutcase. He believes the US needs to play an active role in the reconstruction of the Temple in Jerusalem so that the Christ can rule from His earthly throne for a millennium.
I always find it funny when so called conservatives on this board say things that sound like a copy/paste from a Bernie Sanders transcript
I don't think this post is antisemitic; but you will be labeled as one and your name will likely be forwarded to the ADL. Any critique of Israel warrants this, unfortunately.
See post number one. This is not conservatives as a whole. This is just an example of one acting like the light bulb just went off in their head when Bernie has been preaching things like this for decades at this point
While I don't absolve Palestine of being partly responsible for how the two countries have arrived at the present circumstances, I primarily blame the Israelis, especially the far right. Having said that, and looking at it from a Realpolitik point of view, we have needed Israel as an ally against Iran, which may no longer be the case. But what to do about Hamas?
Trump’s appointee to Attorney General, Pam Bondi, has ventured that Americans who criticize Israel should be fined or even imprisoned. America First is a bald-faced lie.
I think that you need to re-think what websites and podcasts you get your information from. You are beginning, just beginning to sound like the conservative version of Gatorjo and some others of his ilk. I would like to catch you before you go too far.
I read somewhere that all you have to do is say “Jews” and most Americans light up with teeth chattering.
Seeing as Jews have been the only ethnic group that has been prosecuted at almost every place they have resided for most of recorded history, you will have to excuse them if they perk their ears up when they someone starts mentioning a long time conspiracy theory about them.
A little background first. I have, for the most part, lost a long time dear friend who visits the websites and podcasts that I believe that you are hitching your wagon to. I have showed him repeatedly that they are connecting dots without numbers and selectively editing and combining quotes and stories from different times and events to show Israel in the worst possible light. He now believes many of the same things in your post and there is absolutely zero debate in his head that not only are they 100% true but most likely understand. You need to do some research of your own from multiple sources and I believe that you will quickly see what I am referencing.
In 1996 Netanyahu wanted there to be no Palestinian state, only Greater Israel. What to do about the terrorists that supported the Palestinians? Go after their state sponsors: Sudan, Somalia, Libya Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Iran The only place the US hasn't intervened is Iran (yet). Has our foreign policy depended on who our president is? Or has it depended more on what Netanyahu and our deep state neocons have wanted? I know what I think. How 'bout you? After Assad fell Netanyahu said, "We are transforming the Middle East." This started in 1996 when Netanyahu called for a "clean break." Operation "Timber Sycamore" started at least as early as 2013. It's purpose was to overthrow Assad in Syria by arming rebel groups opposed to his rule. The CIA pretended to just be arming "moderate" "head-choppers" but no surprise the "moderate rebels" sold weapons to Al Qaeda (Jabbat Al-Nusra et al). My belief is that Al Qaeda was armed directly, but it doesn't matter. 25 years of war have been devastating for America economically and for those killed and wounded (and their families). It's been pretty hood for Israel of course. It's enemies have been destroyed. Who benefitted most from 9/11? Israel imo. Did the Mossad know about the WTC attacks before they happened? American Pravda: Seeking 9/11 Truth After Twenty Years • Who Attacked America in 2001...and Why? "The twentieth anniversary of the 9/11 Attacks is almost upon us, and although their immediacy has been somewhat reduced by the events of the last eighteen months, we must recognize that they have drastically shaped the world history of the last two decades, greatly changing the daily lives and liberties of most ordinary Americans. The widespread doubts about the reality of the official story provided by our government and almost universally promoted by our media has severely diminished popular faith in the credibility of those two crucial institutions, with consequences that are still very apparent in today’s highest profile issues. Over the years, diligent researchers and courageous journalists have largely demolished the original narrative of those events, and have made a strong, perhaps even overwhelming case that the Israeli Mossad together with its American collaborators played the central role. My own reconstruction, substantially relying upon this accumulated evidence, came to such conclusions, and I am therefore republishing it below, drawn from my previous articles which had appeared in late 2018 and early 2020, with the later material making heavy use of Ronen Bergman’s authoritative 2018 history of the Mossad, which ran more than 750 pages. Immediately following my own analysis is a link to a particularly noteworthy article along the same lines by French writer Laurent Guyénot, which we had originally released simultaneously with my own, then followed by more than a dozen other significant articles of the previous decade, all published or republished on this website. In coming days, some of these may also be separately featured as part of the twenty-year commemoration." American Pravda: Seeking 9/11 Truth After Twenty Years
I have hundreds of elite sources. You didn't answer my question. Can you name something I got wrong? Many of my sources are Jewish btw. Ron Unz in post #18 above. The person that opened up my eyes about AIPAC was a Jewish former editor-in-chief of the Washington Times who I used to correspond with. Other Jews like John Mearsheimer (University of Chicago) would agree with my OP. People like Pat Buchanan would agree with my OP (a lot of Jews hate him of course). If I get a fact wrong or make a dumb argument let me know. My belief is AIPAC has far too much influence on US foreign policy Arnaud de Borchgrave (a Jew): Once a year, the Israel lobby in Washington known as AIPAC holds its annual convention where anyone who is anyone in the political world comes to render fealty, rather than homage,” wrote Arnaud de Borchgrave, editor-at-large of The Washington Times. “It has become a political rite of passage, like a medieval contract for exchanging goods and services...Anyone who doesn’t pass the litmus test can forget about becoming president of the United States, or senator or even congressman...The lobby, reputedly Washington’s most powerful (though this is disputed by the National Rifle Association and the AARP), ensures that anything Israel wants or needs gets quick action on the Hill. That covers anything from $3 billion a year for the next 10 years for modern weaponry to soft loans for building the $2.5 billion physical barrier between Israelis and Palestinians, and under the radar the steady expansion of Jewish settlements in the West Bank. https://www.wrmea.org/2008-septembe...ing-under-increasingly-critical-scrutiny.html
