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Growth in Homelessness

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorFanCF, Dec 31, 2024.

  1. GatorFanCF

    GatorFanCF Premium Member

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  2. OklahomaGator

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    Thanks Joe! (did I do that right)
     
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  3. slayerxing

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    Idk if this is a red/blue issue. Look at places like Jax. They’ve been fighting homelessness for decades. Some issues are just too complex to break down into a red/blue policy debate. Just imo.
     
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  4. channingcrowderhungry

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    The cost of living index is almost an exact overlay of the increase in homelessness map, I believe outside of Maine. That's pretty much all there is too it.
     
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  5. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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  6. okeechobee

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    Newscum could probably tell you.
     
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  7. vegasfox

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    Democrats and some RINOs want to import cheap labor which depresses wages and increases rents and home prices = more homeless people. If you're going to import cheap labor do you have to make them citizens?

    I think more businesses should rent to the homeless. I know some who do. 1 homeless guy has his little tent at the back of a car repair business run by 2 Ukrainians. Next door is another shop where the homeless guy sweeps the floor and serves as "night security." By day both homeless dudes ride the bus and walk around. They take hose showers real early, do yesterday's laundry and don't bother the business owners during the day. Some of these guys receive checks so they can shell out a few bucks for rent. They have EBT food cards.

    Next to these 2 businesses is a third business. A Filipina girl lives there. She has a shower and a bed. Works as a secretary for a group of architects

    2 of these people dress in nice clothes. You'd never know they are technically homeless. Their state IDs show cross street intersections for their addresses. You can't list a business address as your residence on a state ID. Can make it hard to get a bank account (for example they can't show the bank utility bills that are in their names).
     
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  8. mrhansduck

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    This might help explain how the homeless rate in Florida seems to dwarf that of Mississippi.
     
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  10. GatorJMDZ

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    Alternate theory: Even homeless people don't want to live in most red states.

    No, you left the comma out.:p
     
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  11. AzCatFan

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    A big part of the issue is housing supply. Especially in growing areas like Florida. High demand and lower supply leads to higher rent and home prices, pricing out those on the lower end. Especially those living paycheck to paycheck who experience an emergency.

    Deporting immigrants is not the answer. Especially when that represent a large portion of construction workers. Deport all undocumented and you lose up to 50% of those building new domiciles.

    In addition, there are nearly 5 million citizen children living with an undocumented parent. Lose the parent and the kid stays , they still need housing.

    There's no simple answer. But we need more low income housing and programs that can allow those to stay if something unexpected happens.
     
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  12. QGator2414

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    No. More likely…

    Thanks Democrat Mayors!
     
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  13. G8trGr8t

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    'Democracy or oligarchy': Ex-Labor Secretary lays out stakes of the next four years - Raw Story

    "For three decades after World War II, America created the largest middle class the world had ever seen," said Reich. "During those years, the earnings of the typical American worker doubled, just as the size of the American economy doubled. Over the last 40 years, by contrast, the size of the economy has more than doubled again, but the earnings of the typical American have barely budged (adjusted for inflation). Most of the gains have gone to the top. In the 1950s and 1960s, the CEOs of large corporations earned an average of about 20 times the pay of their typical worker. Now they rake in over 300 times the pay of an average worker."
     
  14. G8trGr8t

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    we need higher density residential centers located on public transportation corridors. nobody wants high density but that is the only way to bring cost per unit down. high density and no parking requirement
     
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  15. G8tas

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    If it's Florida then you can thank the legislature
     
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    Lowered expectations helped to increase homelessness. Used to be, for the vast majority, getting a job was an expectation. People learned from an early age, you didn't get a job, you were a BUM.

    Now, we treat them like victims so they don't feel bad about themselves.
     
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  17. G8trGr8t

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    lots of employed homeless out there. you really don't understand the issue and likely don't want to
     
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  18. WC53

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    Just change the definition to change the numbers.

    Agree that it goes beyond red/blue states other than certain categories of homeless go to where benefits are. Service magnets are also population centers which tend to go blue?

    Too lazy to research sub categories this am, but
    Families on street
    Families in shelters
    Families in crap hotels
    Families living with other families
    Mentally ill receiving services on street
    Mentally ill living in Mom’s basement
    Message board posters

    Happy New Year!
     
  19. GatorTheo

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    There are a lot of homeless with jobs? OK, man.
     
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  20. BLING

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    Something like 50%, supposedly.

    I don’t think they are just polling crackheads on the subway, which I assume is your vision of homelessness. Lots of working poor in CA live in cars/vans, for example, due to housing costs. The most visible homeless (those with drug or mental illness) probably aren’t the ones working, but there’s a set that live in shelters or in vehicles that are counted as homeless.
     
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