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Trump's plan for mass deportations

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Nov 8, 2024.

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    He's going to be great and watching the unhinged libbies react will be even better. Us conservatives will be enjoying the next 4 years love reading ignorant comments from the left. Of course, I'm not talking about you, since you're one of the bright ones
     
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    Go get em Mr Homan
     
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    Non-sequitor. I’m not going to respond any further to this repulsive comment. If your memory is that short, I’m sorry. I remember freezers at hospitals filled with corpses at Oschner in Kenner, LA. Stick to the subject.
     
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    Oh bless their little hearts - they think Trump (with the help of his lackeys) is going to do all those things he lied about doing, and totally failed to do during his first term.

    They're so precious right around the beginning of a Trump term!!







    It's not until later, after four straight years of failure that they change a bit.........best to enjoy them while they're young!


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  9. PetrolGator

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    I’ve promised the mods I’d play nice. I’ll only reply with this:

    Your continued, hollow, and feckless responses don’t help your case or demonstrate even an elementary mastery of the subjects you engage on. This “HURR DURR REPOST” only reinforces that your engagement is best labeled as disingenuous. If your memory is so faulty as to forget why the elderly were isolated, as well as those at high-risk, I don’t know what to tell you. Get your memory checked?

    None of this has anything to do with the post I made, aside from demonstrating a desire to engage without good faith to reinforce your inherent cognitive dissonance and bias. I can’t think of another reasonable answer.

    This is where I block you. If I wouldn’t put up with it in person, I won’t do it on the interwebs.
     
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    OK, i clicked on it. Silly me.

    Here's the opening to the article;


    Homeland Security chief Alejandro Mayorkas said Sunday that he and his deputies could have blocked more migrants at the southern border.

    “We would have taken executive action more rapidly,” if he had known in 2020 [emphasis added] that the Republicans would reject his January 2024 border bill, Mayorkas told CBS News on December 22.



    So after reading the article, and your commentary on it, the two main questions I have are;
    1) Don't you dislike being lied to? This article is basically a lie, and they're telling it to YOU. Not me, cuz I don't read this site. They're telling it to YOU. As a grown, adult man, don't you take offense to being lied to?

    2) Don't you feel...bad, or...wrong, about repeating an obvious lie? Don't you feel that grown adults should, well....not tell lies to other adults?
     
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    So he could have stopped it if he knew that republicans would reject a plan 4 years later?
     
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    Sad, if that's your takeaway.
     
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    Since the Mexican American War ended, and the subsequent Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo established the current US/Mexican border, when has the US side of the border been "secure" or "closed?" Answer? Never. Just ask Pancho Villa, or the millions who have entered through the years.

    The thought we can close it now is laughable. More secure? Maybe. But closed? Ha.
     
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    You know, this argument is brought up a lot. You know what, I don't care if illegal immigrants commit less crimes than American citizens per capita. I'll say that again, I don't care.

    The answer is American citizens have a right to be here. Whether they make bad choices or not, they have the legal right to be here. And if they commit crimes, they will answer to those crimes. Illegal immigrants have no right to be here and if they weren't here, those crimes they commit would not be committed. American citizens get the benefit of the doubt, illegal immigrants do not.
     
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    Cancer hasn't been cured yet and we've never cured it, so why bother even trying?

    We've not successfully put a man or woman on Mars. So why bother even trying? Right?

    Just because the border has never been secure, that means we don't even attempt to secure it? I will never accept that mentality.
     
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    A lot to unpack here, but I really only want to address the Great Replacement Theory part of it. While I agree that the idea is dangerous (only if taken to the extreme like almost any ideology), that doesn't mean it isn't true, at least to some extent.

    In the spirit of Christmas and the overall Holiday season, I am trying to tone down the rhetoric. So I ask you this, how come immigration almost always, without any real exception, only impact majority White countries?

    Let's look at Asia first. Japan, China and South Korea are all relatively wealthy countries. Yet these countries, without a doubt, do not welcome ethnic outsiders with the exception of tourism.

    I could show you countless stories of Whites and Blacks who are technically Japanese citizens and speak perfect or near perfect Japanese, yet they will never truly be accepted as Japanese. There are mixed race or even White, Black and Hispanic (yes I have seen a story of a Hispanic South Korean citizen) South Koreans who speak perfect or near perfect Korean, yet they will never truly be accepted as Korean.

    Why do I bring this up? Ethnically Asian countries like Japan, China and South Korea are never attacked for not being "ethnically diverse" or "culturally diverse". There is never any expectation that Japan, China and South Korea accept more immigrants into their countries.

    Now let's look at African countries. While most African countries are terrible, African countries like Nigeria and Morocco have decently high GDP and decent economies. Yet again Nigeria would never, as a culture, be very open to wanting non-Black immigrants into their country. And while North Africans flood Europe, Morocco would never be open to wanting non-Muslim immigrants into their country. And once again, there is no outcry that Nigeria or Morocco need to "diversify" or be more "open".

    Go to South America. While most Central American and South American countries aren't great, there are relatively stable countries such as Uruguay, Chile and Argentina. And yet the immigrants from Central America and South America will only go to the U.S. and Canada and will never consider those other countries. Heck they bypass Mexico, a country that would be far easier to assimilate.

    Go to the Middle East. Dubai and the United Arab Emirates is a wealthy area to say the least. Yet they are culturally Muslim and that will never change, nor are they willing to change that. Why is there not pressure on Dubai to be more inclusive?

    I give you all these examples because, conveniently, it is only White majority countries that are truly expected to "embrace diversity", "be open to immigrants" and "welcome non-whites" into their countries. What some of you here call "diversity", many consider an absolute destruction of the culture of their country. Despite what many of you here believe, diversity is not always a strength. Diversity isn't a bad thing, but I think many would also say it shouldn't destroy the culture of the Country. But yet it is. We are seeing it now in Europe. How long until Germany is no longer recognizable? How long until England is no longer recognizable?

    And that's the point. Non-White countries would never give up their own cultures. And yet White countries are expected to give up their own culture.

    You talk about "White Nationalism" and basically compare it to Nazi Germany. I think about White Nationalism as Whites who aren't afraid of being White and who don't want to lose their culture. By no means do I think a lot of those Whites are racist, want to conquer other cultures or believe they are superior. They just want their White country and their White culture.

    You combine "White Nationalism" with "White Supremacy". Hitler and the Nazis were not White Nationalists, they were White Supremacists. You can easily be a White Nationalist (say for example being British and wanting England to remain like England and not wanting to see England turn into the Middle East like what is currently happening) and not a White Supremacist (believing Whites are superior and wanting to conquer "inferior" races). To be honest I find treating "White Nationalism" to be equal to "White Supremacy" to be really insulting, and would like you and other liberals to stop doing that. I don't have much hope there, but I can still fight the invalid comparison.

    Can you not understand how some White countries in Europe and even here in the U.S. would be afraid of losing their culture?

    Again, where is your criticism of relatively wealthy well off non-White countries like Japan, South Korea, China, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Uruguay, Morocco, Brazil, Nigeria, Argentina and Egypt? Relatively well off countries that essentially reject diversity and shut off access to immigrants and even just individuals in general who aren't part of the countries' ethnic group?

    And when almost all immigration is exclusively going to White countries (Europe, U.S., Canada), and many of those immigrates absolutely refuse to assimilate into the culture of the country (rather they just fully maintain their culture and live in an ethnic enclave), it's not hard at all to feel like that is part of a bigger replacement strategy. Is it really that hard for you to see why many Whites in various countries (not just the U.S.) feel like they are being replaced? That their culture is being replaced? For many, myself included at times, it can definitely feel like the Great Replacement theory is not just a theory, but is real.
     
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    I haven’t been on here in awhile and don’t plan to be on any type of regular basis going forward. With that said, I was bored this evening.

    Would you like to actually engage in discussion on the Great Replacement Theory or just avoid the topic and make snide response, which I will tell you reflects poorly on you and makes me believe you have no actual response to my valid points.

    So why don’t we stop with the snide remarks and actually discuss the topic.
     
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