Trump Abuses Power to Bully Media (Sues Des Moine Register)

It just gets worse and worse.

 

You mean, like people convicted of felonies? Rapists, tax cheats, fraudulent businessmen, insurrectionists, that sort of thing?

 

Rich Baris prwdicted Trump would beat Kamala by 1.7%. Trump won by 1.6% (even with the fraud). Baris was ranked the most accurate pollster for 2024. Robert Barnes says he was the most accurate pollster for 2014-2024.

You seem to be wrong about everything. You're the unwitting court jester of Too Hot.

 

Ann Selzer was bragging to Democrats about the bomb she was going to drop on Trump 2 days before she released her fake poll.

Edit: The rest of my post was deleted by the mods

 

You repeatedly saying it doesn’t make it true. I posted my link… post yours… But here the calculations image. You seem to be wrong about everything, the unwitting court jester of Too Hot… Baris was on par with NBC and NYTs, like I said, predicting a 0.2% Trump win, and off by 1.5%, while the unbais and much more accurate Atlas Intel ate his lunch…

 

I’m unaware of anywhere where she bragged about anything. She said the results may surprise, IIRC.

The Iowa poll has always avoided significant weighting because she didn’t want to “project the electorate.” This has been her SOP forever. Unfortunately, she got a D+2 sample with a major over sampling of college educated voters.

To call the Iowa poll doing what the Iowa poll does as somehow “fraudulent” or “fake” is not an accurate statement. At all. You may contest methodology, and choosing not to weight by education seems curious, but that’s been what’s made the Iowa poll a “gold standard” in the last.

Nothing was done intentionally to be mean to Donald.

The Iowa poll didn’t change methodology to be mean to Trump.

What this is is a blatant attempt to chill any newspaper, journalist, pollster, or any other related group from engaging in activities that make Trump look bad. It’s why he attacked ABC. It’s what he’s done, via lawsuits, since long before he was POTUS.

 

@vegasfox

Please follow the Admin’s requests to remain civil, sir.

Please utilize sound reasoning, evidence, and arguments when having discussion about complex issues. I imagine you’re a Florida alumni. Please act accordingly.

 

Sorry the mods are deleting anything I say about you so whatever...

 

Yes she was bragging and she was wrong. Being wrong doesn't make her liable in a civil court suit and in both 2020 and 2016 her polls were much closer to predicting Trump's totals in Iowa than virtually all of the other pollsters. His lawsuit is an attempt to intimidate pollsters and the press in general as well as a reflection of his fragile ego and a version of gotcha on his part.

 

You should try to put together a valid argument instead of insults, then ... if you can. You are reacting like Rich Baris is your boyfriend and taking comments about his inaccuracy over the last two cycle's personally ... it's weird ...

 

Idea: rely less on personal insults and platitudes.

The topic at hand is the Iowa poll and any grounds for recompense to Trump. Something that makes him mad isn’t ground for recompense.

Ask yourself: if Biden sued a paper for a bad poll, would you laugh at him? I would. If he did it as incoming POTUS, I’d be equally concerned. Country over party and all that.

 

I drank a lot of beer yesterday after getting a rather negative medical diagnosis. Not sure what I posted but pretty sure it was accurate. Rich Baris predicted a 1.7% Trump win. Actually 1.6% (not factoring in the fraud)

 

That’s certainly possible. But it could happen on either side if you think your candidate is way ahead or way behind. If someone were going to intentionally manipulate poll results, they would have to know which side it would benefit. There’s no evidence that Trump supporters stayed home because a poll showed Kamala pulled ahead.

 

Dude. I hope you’re going to be okay. I’ve been there myself and even got my ass banned from this page for drunk posting after a really, really bad day.

I’m not debating that the poll was an outlier. There are quite a few of those. Pollsters were alarmed by the massive herding on Twitter, though the consistency evidently painted that polling, as a whole, was pretty dead-on.

The problem here is that Trump is taking special offense at a single poll because it painted a negative national picture and infuriated him. That poll was flawed, this cycle, for the same reason it did well previously: failure to weight the results like other polls have done.

That’s just been the Ann method. It’s not personal against Trump. Heck, AtlasIntel’d methodology is equally bizarre and weirdly has worked. Why? No one really has a good answer.

 

My cuz made a mistatement of material fact.

Was it wih malice?

Maybe not.

Was it in reckless disregard of the truth?

Yes.

 

LOL! Trump would have gladly sat for a 4-hour deposition.

It's Disney/ABC you have to ask on why they groveled to Trump with $15 million plus $1 million for attorney's fee.

Trump filed the suit in Florida, clearly using the democratic socialist play book on filing in a state which just might have jury awarded 10 to 100 times that amount to Trump.

The bigger issue is the 4-hour deposition little lying Georgie Boy would have done. That would have opened up a whole new can of whoop ass on Disney/ABC. The ABC presidential debate broke every rule and was as one sided in favor of Harris as any debate every done. Once the deposition started, discovery would have quickly moved into the debate plus the botched Harris interview that was ABC News edited to make her not look like the poor-quality person and candidate she actually is.

I'm honestly surprised President Elect Donald Trump took such a paltry sum and settled with Disney/ABC. There are reports Georgie Boy was told in advance not to use the rape term, but he did it anyway.

I also surprised the Georgie Boy Clinton suck up still has a job at ABC News. I'd have fired him immediately after the settlement.

Look for Trump to continue to use the democratic socialist playbook to put the lamestream media on notice that being an arm of the democratic socialist party using lies to smear and influence is unacceptable.

Go Get'em President Elect Trump!

 

Said it before. If the case was actually litigated there is a good chance that ABC would have prevailed. They settled because the network and its parent company were concerned that Trump would use the FCC and the DOJ for retribution and considering that very real possibility the $15 million was probably a real bargain.

 

No way does Disney/ABC win the case in Florida. You are wrong on that.

As to the Des Moines Register, the paper and Seltzer knew they were putting their thumb on the scale as election interference, the paper won't win even if the case is filed in Iowa where there was a 20-point swing in the last poll and the actual state voting result. I will say I'm a bit surprised Trump chose to take on such a weakling when there are plenty of bigger fish to fry, maybe wants to make an example of the liberal Des Moines Register.

 

The Des Moines Regidter poll was fake and meant to increase turnout for Harris and depress turnout for Trump. In the betting community we knew Trump was up by 11%-15%

 

Rationally, a poll that had Harris ahead by 3% (within the margin of error) would motivate Trump supporters to turnout and vote, not depress their turnout. Polls only depress turnout (if they ever do) when there is a significant difference between the candidates.