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FBI had 26 informants at Jan. 6 Capitol riots — and most were involved, bombshell DOJ report confirm

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  1. docspor

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    Once again (leftist) bullshit walks
     
  2. gatorjd95

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    It is interesting - only a decade or two ago, a report from FBI would be completely discounted and not believed by anyone on the left. Today, however, a report produced through the many channels of not only FBI but also political groups is to be accepted as gospel. Again, have you talked with the actual people involved? Listened to and seen what they have to share about that day? I have - not saying there is a silver bullet or hidden aliens in the desert, but the report you've been fed is incomplete with many intentional avoidances.
     
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  3. citygator

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    FBI vs gatorjd95’s gut feelings? Hmm. Let me run that through the washing machine.
     
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    I just see a red X on the screen.....Does that mean the FBI is withholding information from us again?
     
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  5. mdgator05

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    Really? Evidence that "the left" rejected everything done by the FBI from 2004-2014?

    Who, specifically, have you spoken to that was an employee of the FBI that was engaged in illegal activity in January 6? Name them. The IG couldn't find them. So if you have specific employees of the FBI in mind, let's hear it.
     
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    Maybe in your silly view, where anyone who doesn't wear a MAGA hat and support the criminality of Trump is Antifa.

    But once you start with that flawed strawman, it's easy to add onto it.....until you've built a verbal construct of nonsense.
     
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    My amazing gif of a burning washing machine was sadly as oversized as Trump's britches so it didnt render. :(
     
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    Harkens me back to one year at the Fla/Ga game. My son was about 12, pre game some drunk fool got arrested for starting crap(as he should have). I told him if you tell mom about this she probably won’t let you go again until you’re 18.
    He lasted 2 days before he started blabbing about the drunk fool, end result: he missed the Fla/ Ga game for 4 years..
     
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  9. gatorjd95

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    Yes, I have spoken with several FBI agents and personnel outside FBI about this issue. Part of my job the last few years has been taking discovery of the J6 situation and I've had access to people and source documents that are largely public, but generally ignored by the reporting agencies and MSM. I've never said there weren't miscreants involved with J6, but I know and have studied a lot about J6 that does not align with and is often contrary to the "official" reports and MSM coverage. Otherwise, why are we treated with these occasional renditions/corrections to explain what happened that day? It is because the facts are filtering out and those facts become harder to ignore/avoid. Again, not saying there was any great conspiracy (on either side), but there is a lot of gray being hidden.
     
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  10. mdgator05

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    I suspect your vagueness here is strategic. You don't want the claims that you are making to be critically analyzed, along with an analysis of the underlying evidence, so keep it as vague as possible while insinuating something being "hidden." If you are so concerned with things being "hidden," reveal them...
     
  11. gatorjd95

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    Hopefully, you can appreciate that any "vagueness" in my posts is not only intentional but required. Again, I'm not hiding anything - spend the time to go through what is publicly available from Capitol Police PD, Congress, FBI, Secret Service, etc. and make your own decisions. I can't share impressions of what is meaningful or part of what may be evidence in a case. Thus, I'm inviting your own critical analysis - but, alerting you that if you limit your critical analysis to what MSM has fed you, then you are operating in the near dark of your own choosing.
     
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    Sweet jubus party politics are killing us all.
     
  13. mdgator05

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    I have. My impression, based on the evidence: Donald Trump emotionally melted down because he lost. He then made a claim of fraud as an attempt to stay in office and rescue his fragile ego. He then announced a "wild" (his euphemism for "violent") event on January 6. He then peppered his speech on that day with violent imagery and the notion of grievance to promote violent actions. At the same time, right-wing militias were utilizing the event as a way to see their end game occur (in which they violently attack the government and, utilizing Trump, gain control of it). They plotted an organized show of violence as part of a less organized crowd that would at least partially support them and engage in violence on behalf of Trump. The FBI regularly monitors violent, right-wing militias, including recruiting Confidential Human Sources within the organizations. CHSs tend to vary from people who are trying to hurt the organization that they are reporting on to greedy people looking to make money to people who support the organization but are simply trying to stay out of prison. Some of those folks engaged in activities on January 6, some as part of their CHS activities and some on their own.

    If you have some actual evidence to dispute this, please provide it. Quite frankly, you are claiming this is public information but then trying to hint that you have to keep the information confidential because you are an attorney (I would guess for some January 6 participant). That is, to put it mildly, nonsense. If the information is public, you have no obligation to hold it confidential.
     
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    Wow. Now that was an unbiased, critical narrative of the world. ;) You clearly have no appreciation of what may or may not be confidential. And, no, I do not represent any person who participated in the J6 "insurrection." The point that you seem unwilling to accept is that you may not have (or more importantly, may have refused to seek or consider) all the information to support/analyze J6 and this FBI "report." Do your own work first. If you continue to believe all you've written, fine. My guess is you won't/can't consider that your hard opinions may be based upon more fiction than fact. Nope, to you the only "real world" is that the orange man and his minions do evil and everyone else is a victim of multitude conspiracies. That's not just anti-factual, it's sad.
     
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    Public information is not confidential, by definition.

    Very carefully worded. Slight change from what I said.

    You assume that I haven't done work because of what I stated. That seems to completely dispute your notion of you being fine with it.

    I haven't claimed anybody is a victim of conspiracies. Stop pawning off your own version of insinuating but never actually stating conspiracies off on me.

    Once again, I am happy to review any data or information that you provide. I suspect that you will continue to play games though.
     
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    If you don’t represent anyone who participated in J6, who do you represent?
     
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    String theory
     
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    I've been saying this for some time. Finally, the truth comes out in public.
     
  19. mdgator05

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    You suspected that the FBI has informants in violent right-wing groups?
     
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    Hmmmm, interesting ......

    J6 Bombshell: Trump Didn't Just Offer Military to Protect Capitol, He Ordered It but Was Disobeyed

    "For four years, a Democratic-run "select" committee on Jan. 6, anti-Trump Republicans, and the establishment media have blamed Trump for the violence in Washington on Jan. 6, 2021, but the report released Tuesday accused Trump's acting defense secretary at the time, Christopher Miller, of defying Trump's specific orders."
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    "In an interview with the IG, former Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mark Milley, a now-retired Army general, described Trump's words at a Jan. 3, 2021, meeting to prepare for the meeting of Congress to certify the results of the still-disputed 2020 election."
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    "Milley summed up Trump's statement as: 'Hey, I don’t care if you use Guard, or soldiers, active-duty soldiers, do whatever you have to do. Just make sure it’s safe'."
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    "In fact, he [Miller] told the IG interviewers, according to page 68 of the report: 'There was absolutely -- there is absolutely no way I was putting U.S. Military forces at the Capitol'.”
     
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