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ABC to pay $15 million to Trump library to settle lawsuit, court documents show

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  1. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

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    https://www.reuters.com/legal/abc-p...ttle-lawsuit-court-documents-show-2024-12-14/

    Looks like Fox is the only network paying up to settle lawsuits.
     
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  2. VAg8r1

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  3. gator_jo

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    And a huge difference between saying something pretty accurate (Trump is a rapist) and knowingly telling un-American lies to the public.

    Parsing legal hairs versus outright lying. But we all know Trump supporters are fine with the latter.

    It's embarrassing, really. A sad commentary on our public and country.
     
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  4. Orange_and_Bluke

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  5. rivergator

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    The biggest differences, of course, is that Fox knew its claims about Dominion and the election were false and they kept it up for weeks or months because its execs knew that's what its viewers wanted. The ABC thing seemed like a one-time deal.
    But that doesn't excuse ABC's actions. And now it has to pay.
     
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  6. mdgator05

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    Things that you can legally say because they are true according to the justice system: Donald Trump raped E. Jean Carroll. The court system has ruled this true based on a common definition of rape.

    Things that you can't say: Donald Trump was adjudicated to have committed rape against E. Jean. This is untrue. Due to the nature of New York law, in which rape requires him to have inserted his penis in her vagina, he was adjudicated to have committed Sexual Abuse, the crime in New York when you insert anything else into a woman's vagina against her will.

    So, Donald Trump was only adjudicated to have inserted his fingers into E. Jean Carol's vagina against her will. So here is another sentence that is legally true "Donald Trump was adjudicated to have sexually abused E. Jean Carroll."
     
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  7. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    No, you are wrong once again.
    It’s crazy to think any rational person would ever read and debate you.
     
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  8. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    Actually, I am correct, which is why you didn't identify a single factual error. Just because your voting for a person who committed the dictionary definition of rape gives you cognitive dissonance, doesn't make it false.
     
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  9. VAg8r1

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    It's been suggested that ABC agreed to settle because the company's executives didn't want to antagonize Trump considering he will effectively control the FCC and the DOJ after he takes office and can make life very uncomfortable for the network. If ABC decided to litigate there is a very good chance that the network could have prevailed based on the statement of the judge in the E. Jean Carroll defamation case against Trump.
    Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll
     
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  10. Orange_and_Bluke

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  11. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    Yep, you are just fighting to fight. I was factually right. You were factually wrong. We are both used to this in our interactions.
     
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  12. cluckugator

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    Big win for Trump. I’m no Trump fan but calling this as anything else is denying the truth.

    This gives Trump sooooo much leverage to say the main stream media is simply after him at all costs.

    Far more people will buy that line after ABC settled a lawsuit for 8 figures for defamation.

    I still want to see Trump on a 60 mins interview as every candidate has done back to JFK, bit kudos to Trump I guess.
     
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    A big win for Trump but not because he was right on either the facts or the law but because he was able to use his leverage as president-elect to intimidate the network. Once again.
    Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll
    Based on the statement of the judge alone there is a high probability that the network would have won if the case was actually litigated.
     
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  14. G8trGr8t

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    Judge just ruled that djt had to be available for 4 hours of deposition. Money going to library so a tax writeoff
     
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  15. Orange_and_Bluke

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    You’re always factually incorrect.
    I don’t read your posts.
    Doubt anyone does.
     
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  16. mdgator05

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    Okay, so your claim is that you didn't read my post and yet it is factually incorrect? That is just the level of logic I expect from you!
     
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  17. cluckugator

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    I never claimed he had the facts or law on his side, haha. A jury convicted him in a civil court of grape (what the kids call it on social media to not lose their account).

    And I hope a life lesson I can teach my two young boys is the only way to win is never be in a situation where your name is ever even in question for grape.

    Big win for Trump because he will spin the hell out of this situation, but anyone who digs even a little deeper will see it for what it is.
     
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    New York's rape statute was extremely narrow, to the point of being archaic....penal/vaginal penetration. Partially in response to the E. Jean Carroll case, New York recently expanded its law to include far more contact. Under their revised rape statute, which does not apply to Trump, the conduct Trump was found to have engaged in would fall under the statute. Future injustice hopefully prevented.

    https://apnews.com/article/new-york-rape-law-governor-hochul-50e5f9d35b1a7e26881db616a787b45a
     
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  20. Orange_and_Bluke

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    If it came from you, we all know it’s intellectually dishonest.
    No need to read.
     
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