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UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot - 12/9 UPDATE: CAUGHT

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  1. demosthenes

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    We do know his voter registration, he’s not registered for either party. Voting history only comes out if he posted about it which doesn’t appear to be the case. If you feel so inclined to peg him somewhere on the political spectrum, his family owns a conservative radio station and his cousin is a Republican politician. Personally I don’t believe politics have anything to do with his actions though.
     
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  2. cluckugator

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    That is what has me scratching my head. Why did he not toss the ghost gun? Why was he dumb enough to take his mask off in a McDonald’s? I would have left the gun in the bag in Central Park (assuming it was wiped of finger prints) and ate my McDonalds on the back row of the greyhound (or even in the bathroom).

    Surprised he wasn’t caught earlier.
     
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  3. sierragator

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    Stupid on his part to keep anything that would tie him to the crime. Big insurance SUCKS, but gunning people down is not the answer.
     
  4. PetrolGator

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    If you aren’t a medical professional personally evaluating an individual, you have no business diagnosing them with a mental disease. “Rational thought” would dictate that you don’t engage in actions beyond expertise and experience.

    Example? I get tired of people calling others “bipolar” for what laypeople and non-sufferers know of the condition and prismatic expressions. It’s not what the damn movies make it out to be in most cases…
     
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  5. BLING

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    Probably because “guy retaliates violently against system for being denied healthcare” is not really a political story on a top level. VA healthcare workers for example face a lot of violence against them. Thousands of incidents of assault annually.

    Although on the surface some of his anti-corporate language sounds populist/leftist, and that could have led to him targeting the CEO instead of just getting physical or shooting up the pharmacy or doctors office (which is what usually happens, an immediate visceral reaction against workers who may have nothing to do with the claim denial). The plotting and targeting of a CEO is certainly the unique aspect here, that and his young age. But it’s still not exactly a political attack, unless you think all the people complaining about UNH are lefties. Actually the more I think about this right wing populism has adopted a lot of this anti-corporate language as well, so not even sure you can really pigeonhole these things anymore.
     
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  6. GatorBen

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    There was a lot of dumb here, and he probably would have been pretty hard to catch had he eliminated even some of that dumb.

    He picked something to disguise his identity, and went with a medical mask and a hooded jacket. Not a bad choice. But then he wore that same disguise around NYC, including at the hostel where he was staying, for days before the crime so that a whole bunch of people saw him in it and when the police circulated the picture someone said “pretty sure that’s the guy who was staying in our hostel.” Worse, he decided to pull the mask down (while wearing that outfit) to flirt with the desk person, so that his face was on the hostel’s security camera. Then, even once he made it out of state, he continued going out in public wearing pretty much the same thing.

    He committed the crime, then continued carrying the murder weapon around with him even though it would not have been hard to replace.

    He continued using the same fake ID - and even showed it to a cop, even once the news had already reported that he was using a fake ID (which should have been a tipoff that the police knew what that ID was).

    Kid would have been a whole lot harder to catch if, in New York City of all places, all the police were going on was “we’re looking for a white or olive-skinned person, not sure on their gender, with really bushy eyebrows.”
     
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  7. wgbgator

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    Shoulda watched Talented Mr Ripley. You gotta do the thing where you check into multiple hotels under different names, one legit and one fake. Dress/groom differently under each name, make sure to be seen, but not too seen. You already have your alibi, you were just hanging out in NY for a week.
     
  8. citygator

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    You could see from the beginning that this is something new. The total indifference and underlying belief the CEO got what he deserved in some version of karma.

    The Internet’s Obsession With Luigi Mangione Signals a Major Shift

    On TikTok, people performed ballads dedicated to whomever the shooter was. On Bluesky, they marveled over his ebike escape and the backpack found in Central Park full of Monopoly money that allegedly belonged to him. There was a look-alike contest held in New York City. On Spotify, there were dedicated playlists. Fanfic sprung up on Archive of Our Own.

    Online, fans exist for almost everything and everyone. Following the shooting death of Brian Thompson, a fandom emerged around his suspected killer that seemed unifying in a way few others have been. He became an avatar that anyone who’d ever struggled with a hospital bill could understand.

    Many of the most engaged posts on X mentioning Thompson or UnitedHealthcare following the shooting “expressed explicit or implicit support for the killing or denigrated the victim,” the Network Contagion Research Institute (NCRI) wrote in a report compiled before Mangione’s arrest. Rhetoric that was once more at home on 4chan or 8chan was spreading to other forums. “[T]his phenomenon was once largely confined to niche online subcultures,” the authors wrote. “We are now witnessing similar dynamics emerging on mainstream platforms.”

    Mass shooters and other perpetrators of violence often become memes, NCRI senior adviser Alex Goldenberg told The New York Times, “but what’s disturbing about this is that it’s mainstream.” People reacted to the death of Thompson like it signaled the start of a class war.
     
  9. duggers_dad

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    Nutrition bro with anti-healthcare manifesto photographed at McDonalds.
     
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  10. citygator

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  12. duggers_dad

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    It is strange …

     
  13. citygator

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    Former Attny General Nomination weighs in…

     
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  14. wgbgator

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    He must have talked to them over lunch at the HS cafeteria
     
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  15. PetrolGator

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    Another oddity is how you’re hearing indifference from both the populist left and right.
     
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  16. citygator

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    Has anyone every seen Joe Vs The Volcano? "Brain Cloud"? Well the killer had "Brain Fog". Seems he was suicidal, mentally and physically unwell - no shock there.

    Suspect in CEO’s Killing Had Discussed His Health Struggles on Reddit - The New York Times

    The back pain was not his only struggle. He wrote at times about “brain fog” that had worsened during his college years, making studying more difficult. Doctors could not seem to figure out what was happening, he reported.
     
  17. GratefulGator

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    I read that he had contracted Lyme disease sometime in his past.
     
  18. CHFG8R

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    Yes, but the critical question: Is he related to trumpet master and Jazz great Chuck Mangione.
     
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  19. CHFG8R

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    Just to you know, he was screwing over his investors too. Thompson truly was a piece of work.
    UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was facing DOJ probe for insider trading when he was killed in targeted NYC shooting
     
  20. duggers_dad

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    Guy allowed doctors to cut into his back but he wanted to shoot health insurance ?