Trump translation please: Get rid of popular vote

Yeah, I hope some of our MAGAs can come along and translate that for us.

 

At least as of today 100% of MAGA hates the electoral college and wants to use the popular vote… I guess that’s good….

 

I believe the Democrats would go along with this.

 

He just babbles

 

Is he trying to be ironically funny?

 

I would. The EV’s main intended purpose was vaporware after the South got its ass handed to it in 1865.

 

No.

The Founding Fathers established it in the Constitution.

 

"They're eating the electoral college!" ??

 

….and why did they do that? I didn’t say the Civil War caused it; I said it eliminated one of the primary reasons that the EC even exists.

I’ll spell it out for you: slave states worried that other states with more white, property-owning males would out-vote them. The EC allowed for overall population (and in certain cases, 3/5 of a person,) to count toward overall Electors.

 

Nah, it was dead even before the civil war once states starting going to a popular vote to award electors. The "original" Constitutional intent died in less than half a century. By the 1830s there was only one state that had their legislature appoint electors.

 

Nope again. Your spelling out sucks.

It had nada to do with the Civil War or 1865. It was created four score and a couple years prior to "1865". And, it had a lot more to do with farmers in all states not named Pennsylvania and New York.

 

I’m not referring to the states’ Electorial Colleges themselves; I’m referring to why the system was put into place.

Popular vote, in the eyes of the slave holding states, would substantially put them at a disadvantage in POTUS elections. This isn’t a “because racism” post. Their math and intent aren’t unreasonable when you have a far smaller population of eligible voters.

It’s the same reason we had the 3/5 compromise: slave states wanted their entire population to count toward both the EC and House seats. Non-slave states understandably balked. It diluted their own power.

EC only got worse when we froze the number of seats in the House via the Reapportionment Act.

I fail to see why abolishing the EC isn’t a good idea.

 

Had nothing to do with that either. All states had farmers lol. There weren't massive cities then or a big urban/rural divide, this was pre-industrial America. They just didnt want a popular vote to elect the president, that's all. And states started using the popular vote to appoint electors less than 30 years after the ink was dry and the Constitutional intent basically went up in smoke. All other explanations are just backwards justifications. The EC stopped operating the way it was conceived in the 1820s!

 

Sigh.

The Electoral vote is specifically based on population. It provided outsized influence for slave-owning states’ eligible voters.

Madison himself objected to a direct, population-based POTUS election with:

“The right of suffrage was more diffuse in the Northern than the Southern States; and the latter could have no influence in the election on the score of Negroes.”

In other words, in a direct election, the Northern voters would outnumber the South. It was simply a matter of political power. Note that Madison was a key architect of the EC.

 

I am Maga and do not think we should ever get rid of the EC

 

Then you are a MINO, Maga In Name Only ...