SCOTUS Appears Inclined to Uphold Tenn. Law on Transgender Care

I am intolerant of the intolerant. You got me lol.

 

That's a different conversation, but yes, I support people having the right to end their lives, under appropriate circumstances. It actually surprises me that so many people are opposed to it. We recognize the humanity and compassion in euthanizing our beloved pets when they're suffering and terminally ill. Why can't we make the same choice for ourselves? Certainly, I don't support forcing a physician to assist against their wishes. But otherwise, why not?

 

Why can’t they sue their parents who signed the consent form?

 

Maybe they can. That's not my area of law. I don't know the answer.

 

So politicians know better than pediatricians, psychiatrists, parents, and the patient? Not in my world. And you obviously don't know any trans kids or their parents.

 

Your two faced pretense is staggering- God bless you.

 

So much for parents having decision making ability for their kids.

 

Posters on here defending mutilating children are batshit crazy. Everyone of them. No other answer. Someone wants to do it when they turn 18? Have at it as long as it's not done with taxpayer money.

 

I'm fine with prohibiting irreversible surgeries prior to the age of 18. That being said laws such as Tennessee's are vague and go far beyond just prohibiting surgeries. I also believe that medical decisions should be between the doctor and the patient or in the case of minors the parent of the patient with some exceptions. Politicians with no medical expertise shouldn't be over-regulating medical professionals. It's also somewhat ironic that the party that holds itself out as being against excessive regulation has no problem with supporting regulation in this instance.

 

I think anyone has to be 18 or older to decide things like this.

 

I agree 100%, AMEN.

 

Who here has supported gender reassignment surgery before the age of 18? Again, reassignment surgery is a long road that requires many steps before a person is on the operating table. These include several consultations with the medical staff to ensure the patient understands what will happen and that the surgery is generally not reversible. If the doctors have any doubt, or the patient has any doubt, there will be no surgery done.

Often times, the patient is required to speak to both a licensed therapist and those who have undergone the reassignment surgery before they can get the surgery themselves. And it's extremely rare for said surgery to be approved before the age of 18 by doctors.

Surgery is but the last step in a transgender change. There are other steps that happen long before, which includes mental therapy help, living as the other gender, and possibly puberty blockers. These are called gender affirming care steps, which can be done before the age of 18, and requires zero surgery. These are the type of steps the Tenn law outlaws. Which begs the question, why? If the entire medical staff including mental health professionals, parents, and child all agree on taking these gender affirming steps, why should the state have the power to step in and stop it?

Especially since the outcome for too many kids who are refused these steps are self inflicted wounds, including suicide. And several studies show allowing gender affirming care reduces the odds of a trans kid hurting him/herself or killing him/herself.

Taking care of a trans child is so much more than surgery. A lot more. And again, surgery is rarely and option before the age of 18. If a state wants to outlaw reassignment surgery before 18, that's one thing, and few, if any, would object. But outlawing gender affirming care steps? The state shouldn't have the power to dictate that, especially if doctors, parents, and the kid are all in agreement.

 

You mean regulation to stop mutilating a child? Yeah, I think most are for that. You be you though...

 

You think this type of mutilation should be prohibited or is it Ok if the teen and her parents want it?
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LOL. You are comparing a boob job to potentially being castrated and cutting off your junk or being on puberty blockers and render you sterile? OK, good luck with that...

 

The why is in advocating for a child where his parents will not (I understand that we're not all on the page in terms of what this looks like).

Would you be ok with a child having an arm removed because he doesn't think he should have two arms. There's nothing functionally wrong with the arm. There's no biological indicator that the arm maybe shouldn't be there. The parents are deferring to their child's thoughts and feelings. The doctors are willing to perform the procedure. Would it matter if the child was 4, 6, 10, 14? Does "why should I have any say" apply here for you as well?

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You're not advocating for the child when you're arguing to deny the child healthcare they want, their parents want, and their doctors and mental health practitioners have deemed necessary (based on the guidelines, medical evidence, and the standard of care). You're advocating against the child and for your personal prejudices.

You're no different from the white people who thought they were advocating for the best interests of Native American children when they ripped them from their families and threw them into schools to be "assimilated" into American culture. Of course, those schools abused and even killed those kids. But the people behind that policy were absolutely assured of their righteousness, all because of their prejudices against Native Americans.

 

This case isn't really about that issue. It's about all of the care that leads up to gender-reassignment surgery. (Although, it's worth noting that if the state has the power to do this to kids, it also can do it to adults.)