UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot - 12/9 UPDATE: CAUGHT

The good news is they can now limit the suspects to just a small pool of people UH has denied claims for.......

 

More anecdotes. Pt has SMA (spinal muscular atrophy) and lives in a power chair. UHC denies the claim for a chair 3 times and it goes to court. Judge rules that UHC has to cover the chair but the process takes over a year. In the meantime the wheelchair vendor loses money by loaning a chair free until resolution. All so an executive board can reap an extra few million into their compensation and keep shareholders happy.

Soulless. Just because they harm people through policy and layers of personnel doesn't mean these executives are innocent. Again, the murderer should suffer consequences because we can't have vigilante justice IF that's what it was but I shed as many tears for him as he does for the patients they leave stranded who are in desperate need of care just to attempt to have as normal and healthy a life as they can.

 

I haven't told my relatively minor dumb United healthcare denial story.

2 years ago when my wife was having a C-section They said our anesthesiologist was out of network and charged us $3,800. Everything else was in network just not anesthesiologist. I appealed it stating that "in one of the best, most intimate moments of my life, while my wife is also undergoing invasive surgery, your expectations are that I am supposed to screen every individual who walks through the door and interrogate if they are in my insurance network? And if not I'm expected to turn them away?"

They denied my appeal. I still haven't paid shit, I think it's down to a few hundred bucks now.

 

Going to prison after your first gig is not a great way to start a resume.

 

I would say the possibility of intelligence is baked in (see earth’s inhabitants), but also that it’s extremely rare (or at least needs Goldilocks zones), which tells me it’s not quite the God of religion behind it.

It’s too hard to fathom how billions of years of possibility can potentially express itself.

 

I’m not sure if it is still done the same way but if someone is admitted for a procedure through the ER the in network/ out of networks don’t apply. It’s a fairly common trick that the insurance companies pull. Force you to provide information that they already have that is pertinent to a claim.

 

Ergo *amateur* trying to establish a resume (so he can market his services and claim cred as the guy who took out UHC's CEO). The fact that he's taking such a huge risk in getting caught, screams amatuer.

But it seems more like someone taking things very personally, than a pro hit or hit for hire--someone sooooo pissed, getting caught was a secondary concern, to killing his target.

Jmho/fwiw.

 

Deny, defend, depose

United Healthcare CEO shooting: Message may have been left on bullets

 

Seeing billions of years around us without life, tells you how it would play out, without intelligence baked in or otherwise guiding it.

It certainly doesn't rule out "God of religion", it just screams preexisting intelligence.

From whence, is a worthy debate.

Was their preexisting intelligence, is simply not.

That (no preexisting intel) relies on a depth of blind faith in the convenient accident fairy, that no actual person of faith could ever muster.

 

Yeah but when the players make the game, aka lobbyists, it's one in the same

 

I am not sure why people complain about healthcare costs when it's obvious that there are more important things such as much bathroom transgenders can use and if it's ok for kids to read a book about two male penguins raising a chick

 

Big Insurance/Big Pharma/Big Provider are all a problem. But we still have the best healthcare in the world. It could be so much better and efficient though.

My wife had surgery on her toe this year. We have a HSA so we were paying for the whole thing the contracted fees. Crazy thing was they had her all prepped for surgery and then the anesthesiologist person walks in and says we need one final signature for payment. My wife asks how much will it be. They say anywhere from $200 to $7000 lol. They billed $7800 I think and we ended up paying around $400 I think. So dumb!

Just glad we are no longer contracted with any insurance companies (Dental). Well technically my wife is now credentialed with Medicare and Medical insurance as we implement the Sleep into our practice. The bottleneck in sleep is just stupid as we see the airway issues daily and screen for them. Our brilliant system only allows dentist to make a dental appliance. Yet only a MD/DO (not sure NP/PA) can read a sleep study and prescribe a dental appliance and only medical insurance will pay for one. Finally found a company that has widened the bottleneck to help us be able to finally provide something that will benefit our community greatly. As we were never going to get in the medical side. But they have streamlined a way for us to do it. We will see how strong the lobbies are though to keep this as complicated as possible. That said we are super excited about being able to help those with sleep apnea and sleep issues going forward.

 

You do realize an Israeli Mossad hit squad got caught on camera in a hotel after killing a member of Hamas in Dubai back in 2010, right? Since that time, security cameras and cell phone now proliferate the modern world. I'm not sure it would be possible to not be seen by someone these days when conducting a "hit" like this. If fact, doing it in public with multiple avenues to escape and not canalizing your exit route may be the most professional option these days. The fact that we are now at 24 hours and have no leading suspects or follow on security footage of where the shooter went after the murder, seems to suggest he had done a lot of recon and knew where security cameras in the area were and how to avoid them. That strikes me as pretty professional.

 

The gun did not jam. It looks like whatever modification that was made to the semi-auto pistol required it to be re-cocked after every shot. If you watch the video, you can clearly see that the shooter was expecting to do have to do that and did it smoothly every time after he shot.

 

sad state of affairs- a family lost their loved one and someone was in such despair that they took another life

 

There will be security cameras everywhere along the suspects route. Just resources to collect and analyze it. Every business uses a unique, proprietary chinese system that they might or might not know how to work.

Probably better leads going to capture at present. At least NYC certainly has abundant resources to farm out.

 

I believe you are correct. Our c section was scheduled, so it wouldn't have made a difference.

Speaking of, when my son had to admitted to the ER at 2 months old we went to an in network ER. They transfered him to an in network children's hospital. What wasn't covered was the 1 mile ambulance ride between the two that was like $4500.....

 

Be grateful it did not require aerial transport. The hospital in my dinky town doesn’t treat anything more serious than a stubbed toe. My wife had pneumonia and was transported to Chattanooga via air ambulance (45 min) and the bill was $32,000. Thank goodness we had air ambulance insurance. Best $150 i ever spent.

 

As of now, it looks like he's going to get away with it.