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President pardons his son Hunter

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by OklahomaGator, Dec 1, 2024.

  1. CaptUSMCNole

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    Do you think it could be more about Joe Biden being worried that his only living son that has struggled with addiction most of his adult life, would likely relapse if he was sentence to prison with disastrous results for the family?

    If any Democrat really thinks this ends the investigation into the Biden family, I would hope you are right but I fear what this will lead to is that Joe has just robbed Hunter of his ability to plead the fifth about his activities during this time.
     
  2. VAg8r1

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    I think that was the reason for the pardon of the crimes of which Hunter was already convicted. The reason for extending the pardon to any other crimes with which Hunter may have committed even if there was little substantive evidence was to protect him from a witch hunt by the Trump DOJ. Interestingly and I doubt that it will happen if a House or Senate Committee wanted to investigate any alleged irregularities involving Hunter Biden they could subpoena him and he wouldn't be able invoke the 5th since he has immunity from prosecution thanks to the blanket pardon.
     
  3. CaptUSMCNole

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    Mark Halperin stated after Trump won the election, that he was hearing that there was likely going to be an agreed upon peace deal with regard to the lawfare. He said that Hunter would get pardoned and that Gov Hockul in NY would likely pardon Trump for the state crimes. The idea being is that no one would go to jail, the lawyer bills would come to an end, and everyone could move forward. That assumes that Trump wants to move forward and is not looking to keep the case against the Biden family going.

    I'm not sure how all that would work with NY AG James' case with Trump, thought. I would think that Democrats could put a lot of political pressure on her to play ball but I do not think they can force her to.
     
  4. rivergator

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    You’re not wrong about the use of commas and sentence structure. Maybe Patel doesn’t know how punctuation works, or maybe he was trying to misrepresent what actually happened.
    But the bottom line is that, as written, most of that is false. And what you’re left with is “sure, it’s false now. But if you rewrite it, some of it is true.”
    And this is the guy they want to head the FBI.?
     
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  5. CaptUSMCNole

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    I would disagree with the "sure it's false, now" conclusion. Just to be clear, we are talking about someone that sleep with his dead brothers widow and got her hooked on crack, hired prostitutes and did drugs with them while filming it, paid them through his company, lied about to the IRS, and then wrote the charges off on his taxes, and then lied on a federal form to obtain a firearm. Do you disagree with any of that?
     
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  6. rivergator

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    No. Again, haven't studied it in detail. But that looks accurate to me. You know that I wasn't defending him. He's scummy enough without the potential head of the FBI misrepresenting the guy.
     
  7. CaptUSMCNole

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    That is one of my issues with Patel. There are several others.
     
  8. GatorJMDZ

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    Poor Hunter might have a very sketchy memory from all that drug use and stuff the right keeps bringing up.

    Meanwhile, back in Trumplandia, some of his pardons. I wonder how much money changed hands:

    "If Trump seems to think waving the magic wand of legal do-overs comes with zero costs to him, maybe Biden is rightly betting that he enjoys similar leeway. After all, Trump’s first term included freebies for former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, former NYPD Commissioner Bernie Kerik, and “junk-bond kingMichael Milken. He also employed his leniency power to spare five staffers and advisers, three uniformed service members accused of war crimes, seven disgraced former members of Congress—all Republicans—and 10 health care providers accused in a massive Medicare fraud scheme."

    6 Reasons Why Joe Biden Pardoned His Son Hunter
     
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  9. vegasfox

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    Who gets pardoned next, Fauci? I'd like to see him in prison but I guess if you're a Democrat you're above the law.

    The last thing Democrats want is for criminals in the FBI, CIA, NIH and the Obama and Biden administration's to be held accountable.
     
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  10. CaptUSMCNole

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    Jim Biden is probably a name that is going to be coming up as we get closer to Jan 20th.
     
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  11. gatormonk

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    Criminal meaning anyone in a previous administration who has had the audacity to criticize Trump or for that matter anyone in a high profile position regardless of party who has criticized Trump or hasn't demonstrated absolute loyalty to the once and future Dear Leader.
     
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  13. mrhansduck

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    Do you believe Fauci committed crimes before and during the times he worked for Trump or just after?
     
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  15. vegasfox

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    All of the swamp rats want pardons. What leverage can they wield against Biden?

    In 2014, Obama’s CIA and State Dept toppled the democratically elected president of Ukraine with a color revolution. They installed a US puppet regime and turned Ukraine into a cesspool of corruption, an offshore playground for criminal racketeering and money laundering.

    And they 've spent the last decade covering it up by any means necessary. To conceal their crimes they went on offense, accusing Trump of being a Russian asset and triying to prevent him from talking to Putin.

    This is why Trump was impeached over a phone call to Ukraine.

    This is why they are so desperate to arm, fund, and defend Ukraine. They created chaos to hide their crimes and start a proxy war to take the Black Sea away from Russia in order to prevent it from being a great power. They got rich investing in the US Military-Industrial Complex (MIC) while frolicking in and making money off sex trafficking, drug, crimes, financial crimes, money laundering, illegal arms sales, stealing US taxpayer money, creating bioweapons. Who knows the scale and of their operations? They do, snd they know Kash Patel isn't playing around.

    These bad actors seem willing to start a nuclear war with Russia. What a great way to hide their crimes.

    And so over the last decade the Swamp has created chaos because they are petrified their crimes will be exposed. And their worst crimes were carried out in lawless Ukraine, with protection from their US puppet government outside the scope of US oversight.

    All roads lead back to 2014 and the neocons at the State Dept and CIA and their interactions with Ukrainian oligarchs and the MIC snd other global elites and international criminals.

    No wonder VAg8r1 is scared. AzCatFan must be a little nervous as well. Will both of them support preemptive pardons for all of the corrupt characters who will be exposed as Kash Patel and company start declassifying documents?
     
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  16. vegasfox

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    I would guess both.

    Fauci lied to Congress which.is a federal crime, for starters
     
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  17. Spurffelbow833

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    How can you pardon somebody who hasn't even been charged with anything?
     
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    Or how did we get from (on a debate stage, no less) "51 former intelligence officers signed a letter saying the story about my son's laptop is a Russian disinformation campaign" to "I need to pardon my son for any and all crimes he may or may not have committed in the past 11 years." The answer is quite simple. We have a kleptocracy masquerading as a democracy. Which is why you hear them whining about democracy all the time. Accuse others of the very thing you are doing in actuality in order to distract the masses.
     
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  19. gator_jo

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    I don't know. Weird, huh?



    At its first public hearing, the Jan. 6 committee teased that multiple Republican lawmakers had asked then-President Donald Trump for pardons for their roles in the effort to overturn the 2020 election.

    On Thursday, the panel named names and offered specific details about how those requests were made.


    The list comprised Trump's closest congressional allies: Republican Reps. Mo Brooks of Alabama, Matt Gaetz of Florida, Andy Biggs of Arizona, Louie Gohmert of Texas, Scott Perry of Pennsylvania and Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia.

    "I recommend that President give general (all purpose) pardons to the following groups of people: ... Every Congressman and Senator who voted to reject the electoral college vote submissions of Arizona and Pennsylvania," Brooks wrote to the White House.


    Jan. 6 panel reveals GOP lawmakers sought Trump pardons after Capitol attack
     
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  20. GatorJMDZ

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    Uhmm, the President signs it.