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Trump stands by Pete Hegseth for Defense Secretary

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  1. uftaipan

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    Either you meant to respond to someone else, or you didn’t take my meaning. I was saying if you marry someone who left his wife for you (i.e. a traitor), then you shouldn’t be terribly surprised when he up and does the same thing to you.
     
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  2. VAg8r1

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    Kind of like Matt Gaetz
     
  3. okeechobee

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    Oh, it's complete with a snapshot of where the NY Times is on the political spectrum and everything. So educational. Thank you, @PITBOSS
     
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  4. VAg8r1

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    Not sure whether it was already mentioned, although it's very seldom actually prosecuted adultery is still a crime under UCMJ. Maybe it's just me the optics do not look very good when a serial adulterer has been nominated to lead the US military.
     
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  6. uftaipan

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    While it is true that it is rarely prosecuted without aggravating circumstances, adultery is often used to break careers in the form of nonjudicial punishment. Seen more than one commander relieved for cause over that kind of misconduct.
     
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  7. PITBOSS

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    Sure, np.
     
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  8. CaptUSMCNole

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    To be guilty of it, Hegseth would have had to be in an active status with the military to be subject to the UCMJ. If he was not in an active status, the DoD cannot take any action.

    Adultery is still prosecuted rather regularly within the military. SecDef Ash Carter even looked at pulling Gen Petraeus back on to active duty to have him face charges for it. The issue with charge is that it is one of the hardest crimes to prosecute because unless they are caught in the act or there is a recording, it is very hard to prove. Most of the time, it is handled with Non Judicial Punishment as it is easier for everyone involved.
     
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  9. G8trGr8t

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    stick a fork in him, he's done

    Pete Hegseth’s Secret History | The New Yorker

    But Hegseth’s record before becoming a full-time Fox News TV host, in 2017, raises additional questions about his suitability to run the world’s largest and most lethal military force. A trail of documents, corroborated by the accounts of former colleagues, indicates that Hegseth was forced to step down by both of the two nonprofit advocacy groups that he ran—Veterans for Freedom and Concerned Veterans for America—in the face of serious allegations of financial mismanagement, sexual impropriety, and personal misconduct.

    A previously undisclosed whistle-blower report on Hegseth’s tenure as the president of Concerned Veterans for America, from 2013 until 2016, describes him as being repeatedly intoxicated while acting in his official capacity—to the point of needing to be carried out of the organization’s events. The detailed seven-page report—which was compiled by multiple former C.V.A. employees and sent to the organization’s senior management in February, 2015—states that, at one point, Hegseth had to be restrained while drunk from joining the dancers on the stage of a Louisiana strip club, where he had brought his team. The report also says that Hegseth, who was married at the time, and other members of his management team sexually pursued the organization’s female staffers, whom they divided into two groups—the “party girls” and the “not party girls.” In addition, the report asserts that, under Hegseth’s leadership, the organization became a hostile workplace that ignored serious accusations of impropriety, including an allegation made by a female employee that another employee on Hegseth’s staff had attempted to sexually assault her at the Louisiana strip club. In a separate letter of complaint, which was sent to the organization in late 2015, a different former employee described Hegseth being at a bar in the early-morning hours of May 29, 2015, while on an official tour through Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, drunkenly chanting “Kill All Muslims! Kill All Muslims!”
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    “Congratulations on Removing Pete Hegseth” is the subject line of an e-mail, obtained by The New Yorker, that was sent to Hegseth’s successor as president of the group, Jae Pak, on January 15, 2016. The e-mail, sent under a pseudonym by one of the whistle-blowers, included a copy of the report, and went on to say, “Among the staff, the disgust for Pete was pretty high. Most veterans do not think he represents them nor their high standard of excellence.” The e-mail also stated that Hegseth had “a history of alcohol abuse” and had “treated the organization funds like they were a personal expense account—for partying, drinking, and using CVA events as little more than opportunities to ‘hook up’ with women on the road.”
     
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  10. ursidman

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    Hegseth was forced to step down by both of the two nonprofit advocacy groups that he ran-Veterans for Freedom and Concerned Veterans for America—in the face of serious allegations of financial mismanagement, sexual
    impropriety, and personal misconduct.


    Thevotes are in, the people have spoken. These kinds of bad acts and low character are now OK.
     
  11. mdgator05

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    Right-wingers: "iT'S jUsT a TaTtoO"
     
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    From the moment he was nominated, there were some people hinting that a lot of personal dirty laundry had the potential to come out and it looks like they have been proven correct. If that report is accurate, I would expect this nomination to not make it to a vote.
     
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  13. vaxcardinal

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    Hope he goes back to fox and friends Saturday. His replacement isn’t as good
     
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  14. okeechobee

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    Yeah, I don't think he's gonna make it. Now... let's get who Trump really intended to bring in there all along.. Sly Stallone (as Rambo no doubt).
     
  15. dangolegators

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    Trump didn't have a clue about this guy other than he looked good on TV.
     
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    I think Trump knows him pretty well since he has been very supportive of Trump. I think the problem was that Hegseth was not honest when it came his vetting process and the skeletons in his closet and Trump's team did not do a good job ensuring his answers were accurate.
     
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    Now ok?
    You libbies showed us the way…
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  18. BLING

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    Totally unqualified? Check. Multiple adulterer? That’s ok. Financial grifting and mismanaging charitable funds? Hell Trump encourages that.

    But the thing that might do him in is the drunkenness. Trump demands his lackeys stay sober.
     
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  20. okeechobee

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    What exactly does an FBI background check tell an incoming administration about one of their cabinet picks other than their criminal history? Does the FBI keep tabs on when soldiers go to strip clubs? I'm not even sure they'd have record of Hegseth's situation at the GOP women's convention since there wasn't an arrest. I suppose a police report might pop, but beyond that, what is the FBI going to tell the transition team that isn't already public record for the most part? I truly don't know, if someone has the answer.