War in Ukraine

Same old comps. HIitler, WW II...

Hitler/3rd Riech Germany =/= Putin/Russia.

Hitler took Poland down in 2 days. He mowed down half of Europe in a year and change. Their was zero MADD detergent.

Putin is still spinning his wheels in EASTERN Ukraine going on 3 years.


...and Rus-Ukr = China-Taiwan.

But China-Taiwan =/= Russia-Ukraine.

https://www.usip.org/publications/2022/03/china-not-russia-taiwan-not-ukraine

Furthermore, your multi-trillion dollars bullshit is pure conjecture. Russia won't breach NATO.

But what is FACT, is that we are spending ourselves into ruin NOW--as the former Soviet Union spent itself into dissolution 30+ years ago.

Ukraine is admittedly a small part of that equation, since our spending problem is a problem of Trillions, while our spending on Ukraine is approx 200 Billion and counting.

But it is also, a low priority for us-not the drama queen sized threat you blow *very scary* (lol!) Russia up to be.

Our national debt, collapse of the dollar, and related consequences represent FAAAARRRR greater threat than Russia's rust bucket war machine, half a world away.

We have cancer... you continue to pearl clutch over somebody done somebody wrong in another country.

 

When they get there and figure out there hasn't been much of an effect at all, what then?

 

So much ignorance . . . where to start? People use WWII comparisons because even the most pathetic knuckledragger has heard of it and is familiar with the players and the script. Regardless of what kind of detergent Hitler was using.

I never said China-Taiwan was EQUAL to Russia-Ukraine. Only that doing our part to make sure that Russia is defeated in Ukraine will discourage China from invading Taiwan. It would demonstrate that the world will unite against barbarian invaders and defeat them.

I use the factual statement "multi-trillion dollars" because it actually happened the last time Russia's economy and military collapsed (1990), after losing a war in Afghanistan. My quote for U.S. defense spending demonstrating that we saved $2.55 trillion in the 1990's is a few hundred pages upthread, if you're not too lazy to look for it.

How scary a country is now = / = how scary it will be in the future. What you can clearly see right now is that Russia is willing to invade its neighbors and seize land and resources with one of the largest armies on earth. Allowing them to get away with it only encourages them to do it again. And that's where the comparison with WWII and Hitler comes into play--no one opposed Hitler with any troops after Poland, so he was encouraged to do it again, and his next stop was Paris, with stops in Belgium and the Netherlands.

Our national debt (what collapse of the dollar?) is not a major concern right now. The inflation rate is not that high, and its been coming down after we completed Covid spending. You probably did not live through the double digit inflation of the 1970's, so you don't know what high inflation is. There is no cancer. Talking about a drama queen clutching pearls . . . A $2.55 trillion deduction from the national debt would be a very positive thing in ten years.

Again, you don't seem to have any understanding of how military spending works, and why you want to defeat an adversary through a proxy war when he sticks his nose in the grinder. Military spending during peacetime consists of predicting what capabilities you might need in your next conflict(s) and spending enough money to make sure you have those capabilities, whether you wind up using those capabilities or not. You don't know what your adversary is investing in, and you don't know how warfare will transform in the intervening years. That is a hell of a lot more expensive than sending old weapons and ammunition to a help a country defend itself while grinding the adversary down until his economy collapses. Use your brain and think, man!

 

more millions down the drain

https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-...l&utm_source=iterable&utm_content=morningnote

 

Great post!!!

Unfortunately, it was used on a "person" who didn't make it past the second sentence. 3. . . 2. . . 1 . . . for his irrelevant (and clear evidence he didn't get past the first graph), unhinged rant of a reply.

 

You mean the speaking in tongues type stuff with chicoms galore?

 

Gotta love how he leaves out his buddies helping Hitler carve up Poland. Could have prevented WWII right there by not aligning with the Nazis. . . But, Russia gonna Russia! I always think of this when they talk about their "sacrifice" during WWII. Oh, the "sacrifice" you never needed to make? Got it. Thanks!

 

You know, in order to draw a parallel, it doesn’t have to be 1:1 exact? Right? Lots of people compare the battlefield scenes there to those world wars and the level of destruction is something we’ve rarely seen, other than perhaps Alleppo or Gaza on more concentrated scale. Putin has to be singularity responsible for more human deaths than anyone presently alive on earth today.

Obviously with Putin we see Russia bogged down in Ukraine. *If* their plans went ahead in mere weeks or with less losses maybe in that first year, do you honestly not think he he wouldn’t have already set his sights elsewhere? This doesn’t mean he’d go straight into Poland, but that they would obviously set their sights on other non-NATO states while continuing to be a malign actor (which they still are even with their war going on, but coming off a swift victory you know that would have had them ramping it up 100-fold).

 

pleasantly surprising if true. can't imagine that un likes hearing about how poorly they are performing

Kim Jong-un 'furious with Vladimir Putin' over important factor in Ukraine war

Vladimir Putin seems to be shedding even those few loyal allies he had left. A Kremlin "insider" lifted the lid on Telegram, revealing that North Korean Supreme Leader Kim Jong-un, despite promises of unwavering support and a steady flow of soldiers for Putin's war against Ukraine, is now reportedly "disappointed" with the deployment and high fatalities of his troops.

The source claimed: "Despite assurances of eternal friendship and full support for Russia in the war against Ukraine, Kim Jong-un does not plan to increase the amount of aid provided in the near future."

 

Moldova would already be gone and they'd be getting into it with the Romanians along the Black Sea/Mouth of the Danube. Interesting how nobody - especially the Commie Russia lovers - ever talks about the abject failure that occurred in the first two weeks and how different this conversation would be if Putin wasn't a dumbass and the Russian military wasn't so awful. Every expert in the world predicted a Ukrainian fall within two weeks - something Putin had been claiming for years - and yet they completely stepped on their dicks and face-planted into a puddle of their own vomit. That is some high-level failure right there, and yet our Commie MAGA friends constantly simp for this idiot and label the US and NATO as aggressors (Noam Chomsky's literal words for the last 4 decades).

Imagine being that much of a dumbass, loser and, most important, easy mark for Putin.

 

BBC headline: “Exhausted Ukrainian troops in Russia* told to cling on and wait for Trump.”

Honestly, what do they think Trump can do ?

*Freudian slip ?

 

In order to get in the mood to make any sacrifices, Russia decided to first sacrifice Poland.

 

Hard to believe that Kim was unable to figure out he was sending troops to a country that uses infantry in meat waves and takes high casualties.

 

1000 mg of hubris for rocket man. I'm sure he thought the first wave of NK troops would have reached Gibraltar by now.

 

Rumor is that two million North Korean troops are on their way to replace the million that have already perished in Ukraine.

 

Or just take the parts they covet.

 

He doesn't care. I think he wants them to get experience. And that's not a good thing.

 

So we're going to compare it to Hitler and Nazi Germany because some people are too dumb to reference any other point in history? That's some solid rationale there. Maybe that's the rationale the Dems were going for with Trump. "They're too stupid to understand anything else, so we'll just call him Hitler. Yeah! That'll work!"

 

Right. Now, to keep it even simpler, I prefer to compare it to the Anglo-Zanzibar War of 1896. But any of them will work. After all, doesn't have to be 1:1 exact, like you said.