Love the wins.. but.. We need an OC

Lagway's legs and improvisation will take the offense to another level. A stellar Oline would help. We need a top receiver and tight end.

 

Ike Hilliard. He’s with the Falcons currently

 

I don't mind the base offense in itself. It can score bunches of touchdowns. However, we could not win in 9 OT. We dont have that many plays to get short yardage. CBN relies too much on the scheme working instead of using mismatches (players and packages), punishing aggression with well timed screens, misdirection, and confusing Ds with variations on plays. I just don't think he has the feel for the flow of the game. I fear play calling may be too much to process that creates unusual decisions in crunch time. I would like to see a new playcaller. Every offense should be expanded every year anyhow. Just bring in new ideas to add to the framework, even if you have to get an OC from a lower level or assistant in the NFL.

 

We need 3 top WRs next year. And an OC. We have not recruited well at TE or WR

 

I'm not arguing with you Rick . . . but I'm also not so sure this is completely correct.

I look at a couple of things saying that: First, DJ was a baby freshman who wasn't expected to play the role he played this year. Only Mertz's season-ending injury made that necessary. Second, the offense was tailored to Mertz . . . whose skill set is greatly different than DJ's. Coach Napier can't install a new offense mid-season.

As soon as DJ started playing, Florida began stretching the field more. A lot more.

Those plays were always there. One QB could make them. The other was uncomfortable or unable to try.

Then there is the issue of the O-Line. They were not a strength to begin with but jelled during the season. Again, a difference at QB (mobility) can change a lot around him. A coach can also dial-up more types of passing plays with an O-Line that has proven it can pass protect.

We may get a slightly different offense next spring.

 

That's all great, and it will help us get to the top tier of the conference, but it's still not enough to get us over the top. Our offensive predictability will be like an engine governor that will hold back our true horsepower.

 

Even as pedestrian as the offense often is, it is still far more efficient than offenses of the teams we've beaten recently. I think in the last three wins we've had far less plays than all of our opponents and still beat each by double digit scores. Only fsu was a terrible team. Ole Miss is a very good team and lsu is at least a capable team.

 

After 3 full years... we know the process.

 

I agree completely. This offense is not going to generate good enough numbers for Lagway to win a Heisman, and he definitely has the talent.

Get a guru and give Lagway the help he deserves and we legit are a title contender with a Heisman candidate for the next 2-3 years

 

Saban’s players came for Saban. He changed OCs like underwear. Billy may not be a great offensive mind, but he has that in common with Saban…players want to play for him.

 

Agree with all of this. CBN's O has a primitive and simplistic passing scheme that is easy to defend, and as a playcaller he too often runs v 7 or 8 in the box and becomes "scared money" at key points in the game.

Listen to the GNFP podcast (or watch the Youtube videos of the offensive breakdowns) to get what to me are very persuasive critiques of Billy as an OC and playcaller.

I would also say that DJ, as good as he is, needs a good QB coach to reach his elite potential, he is very often throwing off platform, even in a clean pocket, and this leads to his not infrequent ints.

CBN is no QB coach, his run game schemes are excellent but he is not going to reach our expectations of a consistent 10+ W's/season with half an offense.

CBN's O works when we face equal or inferior talent, but he cannot scheme us over a more talented team, he never has, and he isn't recruiting well enough to avoid having to play at least 2 or 3 more talented teams every year.

You can hire an OC that runs a similar and consistent scheme to Billy's, but that upgrades our passing offense and hopefully can convince Billy to go for the jugular at key moments when Billy seems content to run clock or just mismanage the clock, we have all seen it.

 

One would think a few good ones would be interested to come to coach up DJ.

 

There is virtually no misdirection at all. Most of the successful plays that 1/2a$$U had were on misdirection.

 

How many times did Saban's offense evolve with new OCs... So, that argument about Napier not wanting to or needing to change is a moot point if we want to be the best team in college football.

Napier is still thinking like an OC... with head coaching duties. When in reality he is the CEO of our football program that is not delegating the right people we need in order to change... to more forward.

If Napier wants to be great, he needs to get out of his comfort zone and figure out his new path to greatness.

Stubbornness and stagnation as a head football coach gets you fired and relegated to the dustheaps of history.

Hope he figures it out before next year.

Go Gators!

 

Agree with a lot here. I think for me its more about in game management. Just something about an OC that isn't able to review replays during the game and talk to his players/position coaches when the defense is on the field. I'm sure a lot is being done by the army, but when your HC is the OC, then you don't have that.

 

Even Kiffen who was pretty damn good at Bama has an O coordinator...

 

It’s both

 

So UT (OT loss), LSU (win) and Ole Miss (win) were all inferior opponents? Hmm

 

You may want to get Shane Matthews' take on that one...