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GNFP and Offensive Scheme

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by gators1994, Nov 20, 2024 at 4:57 AM.

  1. MarineG8R

    MarineG8R GC Hall of Fame

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    Complimentary football. We shall see next year, but like spike posted...he doesn't have a good track record. I really hope he's open to an outside OC hire.
     
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  2. antny1

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    Oh absolutely. Perception, reality... don't care. He needs a dedicated OC or else any goodwill earned from the recent improvement probably goes out the window immediately
     
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  3. GatorBait42

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    Napier does not need an OC his play calling and scheme are not bad, there is actually a lot of really good stuff that they do. My issue has always been the fit for his style of offense at Florida. Heavy TE usage, shifts, and a gap scheme run game. Not exactly the type of offense I would think fits Florida where you can recruit speed and might not have access to the lineman, and tight ends you need to make it work.

    That all being said I am starting to see signs of life within the offensive vision. Our running backs are all really physical guys who are decently complete in all areas, our offensive line which mostly entirely returns next year is getting off the ball and moving people. The other issue is the style of ball we play lends itself heavily to complimentary Football, our defense has not held up its end of the bargain until recently.

    If the defense can continue to improve, and Florida can be effective in the run game you add in a generational talent at the QB spot I am not sure why anybody would want to change this thing or drastically alter it. The smartest thing for Florida to do and what people may not want to hear is to keep everything we have going as consistent as possible next season, so we can stack this success with continuity within the system and roles.


    As an aside a lot people talk about SOS and his scheme in relation to Florida today. At the time sure it was spectacular. But it might as well be a completely different game we are talking about compared to the way defenses play today. If you showed up in 1993 and started calling Tite Front Alignments playing match behind it, people would have accused you of witchcraft
     
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  4. GatorBait42

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    Let us play in the ACC we could be top 10

    Maybe national statistics are not a good measuring stick during this time in College Football
     
  5. FranceGator

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    @GatorBait42 love your points and right in about Spurrier, whose offense looked a lot different at the end of his USCe days.
     
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  6. kryptonite

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    Those were his numbers when he called plays in leagues like the ACC, PAC, and Sunbelt who weren't known for defense. He has a far greater mountain to climb now.
     
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  7. DeepPurpleGator

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    Throw out the two games when a Yale transfer played QB and our average puts us at 49th. Not great, but better.
     
  8. WC53

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    If you need a generational talent to make your offense pop…… and this with a really good RB room.
    No matter how you slice it, when your O output is low in SEC rankings, your D better on fire.
     
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  9. DieAGator

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    Yeah, well

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  10. DieAGator

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    How many times have you seen that throw complete but defenders on all sides of the hitch receiver? They just go to that spot.
     
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  11. MarineG8R

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    We could take out the cupcake FCS teams that pad the stats as well. The legit championship teams are in the top 20. Can a BN called offense get there? So far the answer is no, he hasn’t done it yet. Maybe with an improved DJ and better talent around him? We get to find out next season.
     
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  12. freedomgator

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  13. WindoverG8tr

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    And timing and spacing. So many times Danny throwing to a spot and the balls in the air before the wide out has even started his final break.
    Edit:: one note. Teams today are not allowed to put in nearly as many hours practicing as they did in 70’s n 80’s. This really hurts Qb to wr timing and especially offensive lines as a unit.
     
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  14. Wanne15

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    Same way those nfl oc schemes work with shit for a qb.
     
  15. grayg8rstevo

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    This post is prescient.
    The new thinking Spurrier versus the run defense strengths of 90s and defensive backfields that never saw receivers make decisions and a quarterback who could see what they saw….THAT was the Revolution.
    The SEC defensive backfields began to learn. Spurrier taught them for ten years and they did learn.
    2001 was a disappointment to him, as the coach thought he had his best team ever. 9-11 gave our season a twist and Tennessee made us pay at the end. Fan’s lack of enthusiasm for 10-3 seasons and SOS yearning to give the NFL a shot, ended all that.


    His “revolutionary” approach to receivers combined with very average nfl qb play was dismantled in two years. Another story.

    SOS return to college and SC brought a different mindset by him. He balanced run and pass much more than before. Big difference.

    Also interesting during the Bowden Spurrier competitions, Bowden did understand the UF offense and his team used lots of excellent ideas.

    Because they did, Spurrier defeated FSU 25% of the time. FSU was not bumfoozled by UF.

    31 is a serious poster and many would be well advised to pay much closer attention to his analysis. CBN will be here for a while. How long will be determined by the wins. Period. Lagway goes deep. He must also master the shorter game. Period. Go gators.

     
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  16. antny1

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    Bowden's success against spurrier wasn't ALL scheme. FSU and Miami those days collected a serious speed and talent advantage and not just at skill positions. Florida wasn't "slow" but outside of a few years I'd say fsu had a talent advantage across several positions most years.
     
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  17. gatorlips

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    Bowden could get away with anything. Cheat? " Miami does it to" media- "OK". Lie about fumble recovery on national tv- media " love that Bobby". Play an ineligible player in a key game- media" it's ok IT's BOBBY
     
  18. antny1

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    Bobby got quite the pass from the media despite a lot of greasy stuff for sure.
     
  19. northgagator

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    FSU also had an advantage. That advantage was the cooperation of Tallahassee/Leon police departments. Many of Bobby's boys got the velvet glove treatment with their run ins with the law.
     
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