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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. okeechobee

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    You are so smart. Tell me more.
     
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  2. okeechobee

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    Trump won.
     
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  3. chemgator

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    Trump did win. America lost. Some people just aren't bright enough to figure that out yet.

    Of course, that has nothing to do with a line of reasoning that might be seven times as deadly as another line of reasoning. Try to stay on topic.
     
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  4. okeechobee

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    We need to be bright like you.
     
  5. OklahomaGator

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    I would think they could look at the flight path on radar and determine what kind of missile it was, where it was launched from, how fast it flew, etc.
     
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  6. gator_fever

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    About all Trump can do is cut the funding and tell Western Europe they can take up the slack if they want (which they wont). As far as any peace plan Russia won't be giving that Donbass area back so that is off the table. There are a few little areas Russia holds they probably dont care about long term but it's not a lot. Basically Western Ukraine has nothing to bargain with and Russia holds all the cards and Trump doesn't change that. Ukraine should have been wiser and not let the western crooks use them for a proxy war and money laundering operation. I guess Zelensky won't care much long term as he is set up to live a real good life after all of this with some of that money.
     
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  8. okeechobee

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    How does providing a pre-notice to this indicate they are not serious about using nukes? If anything, it’s a “this is what we’re going to do. Try to stop it. You can’t.”
     
  9. okeechobee

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    This is about as succinct as it gets. I think Ukraine would love to have Crimea back, but I am not convinced they are too worried about the Donbas. After all, they'd been shelling Russian speaking citizens there for months and those areas aren't now going to magically agree to making Ukrainian the only official language in the region.
     
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  10. CHFG8R

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    Problem was not taking a stand and forcing PUTIN (not his flunkies) to make a firm statement on it. "So, Vlad, you're saying that supplying arms and logistic support to a country you just attacked it grounds for global thermonuclear war? Why don't you tell the rest of the world that."

    Because the simple fact is nothing has changed from 50 years ago. Protocols are still the same. Armageddon is not going to dig Putin out of this hole. However, every time they make these worthless threats, the Biden administration reacts, which is why they keep making these threats.
     
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    I do think there are some valuable resources somewhere in that Donbass area but yes the people there overall probably prefer to be under Russia. There was zero chance Crimea was ever going back to Ukraine.
     
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    I fully support Ukraine in this, but 100% don't think they should get Crimea back. That's the thing about 2022. It was totally unnecessary and motivated purely by ego and hubris. Russia had everything it needed after 2014 and the lack of real action by the west indicates we were on board with this too. So why this? Ego. Hubris. Nothing more.