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Trump's plan for mass deportations

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Nov 8, 2024.

  1. AzCatFan

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    I'm a citizen. Don't own a business. I do care about others and their welfare. I also care about my family and community. I fail to see how splitting families, higher unemployment, and higher prices benefits me. All so we can blindly follow an unjust law?
     
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  2. g8orbill

    g8orbill Old Gator Moderator Premium Member VIP Member

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    please tell me how you arrived at this being an unjust law

    if it is so unjust them contact your reps and ask them to try and change it - but you cannot ignore a law just because you consider it unjust
     
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  3. GatorJMDZ

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    Are you suggesting @AzCatFan is engaged in criminal activity?
     
  4. g8orbill

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    nope, just asking him for clarification
     
  5. G8trGr8t

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    How very Christian of you. What would Jesus tell you to do? Or does that matter? As I understand it, if they can document reasonable fear for their life they have basis for staying.

    If someone commits a serious crime here, definitely send them back after their sentence is done. Repeat apprehension after expulsion, 20 years..
     
  6. gator_jo

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    These are the same people who literally saw a person criminally attempt to overturn an election...... and then they voted him to be President of the United States of America. But now they actually have the audacity to mouth something -anything- about how criminals should face consequences?

    There's no point arguing with such people. They, at best, don't recognize hypocrisy, and at worst simply don't discuss things in good faith.
     
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  7. g8orbill

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    then they should have come across in a legal manner

    seems you have made it very clear you are a nonbeliever so what do you know about what Jesus would do
     
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  8. AzCatFan

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    The law is unjust because we have a demand for their labor. 8 million in our workforce at a time with 8 million current job openings and less than 7 million unemployed.

    It's unjust because while the immigrants can find jobs, too many are paid under the table and have no recourse if mistreated.

    It's unjust because citizen children of undocumented and young kids brought over as children didn't ask for their parents or themselves to be here undocumented. Yet, they will face punishment one way or another.

    And it was MLK Jr. who said following unjust laws is wrong. Imagine if civil rights leaders decided just to blindly follow the laws instead of rousing up some good trouble?
     
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  9. g8orbill

    g8orbill Old Gator Moderator Premium Member VIP Member

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    or maybe we just do not buy you liberal bs
     
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  10. gator_jo

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    I'd be interested in you pointing out my "liberal bs."

    Bet you can't.
     
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  11. g8orbill

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    again if. you feel it is so unjust then get involved with your reps and try to change the law - until then it is the law of the land and they have to go
     
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  12. g8orbill

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    I won't waste my time but it is blatant for all to see
     
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  13. OklahomaGator

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    If they followed the legal process, claimed asylum and it was granted they would not be illegal and subject to deportation.
     
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  14. AzCatFan

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    Who says I haven't been trying? We should've changed the law in 2007 and/or 2007. Sadly, not enough support to change the law.
     
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  15. g8orbill

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    so then the law has to be followed- it is okay if you do not like the law and it is okay if you think it mean- but the law is the law period
     
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  16. gator_jo

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    Now do laws about criminally trying to overturn an election.

    Or intentionally and illegally trying to not return classified documents.

    Oh wait, you don't mind if those laws are broken? (And by a sitting or former POTUS, no less.)

    Sad.
     
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  17. g8orbill

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    you can scream all you want about jan 6th but he did not do anything to incite anything and openly asked for a peaceful protests!
    as President he is allowed to declassify docs and take them with him- not only were they secured but he was asked by the FBI to put a second lock on the closet they were stored in and he did so

    and guess what the American people know a set up when they see one and he was elected as the 47th President of the United States
     
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  18. gator_jo

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    Now do the fake elector slates. And the four years of publicly lying about fake election fraud. Talk about his trying to coerce his own VP and state election officials. Hell, you can even talk about his dereliction of duty as POTUS while he stood and gleefully watched for over three hours while cops were beaten....yet did nothing, even as he was begged to by staff and family.

    Nah, you won't say anything about that. Because you don't really care about the law - only the ones that suit you.
     
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  19. g8orbill

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    publicly lying- what a joke

    you need to educate yourself on what actually happened and what he said- it is out there
     
  20. AzCatFan

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    I'm sure you turn yourself in to receive a ticket every time you speed and don't get pulled over. Right? Because the law is the v law!

    And again, imagine where we'd be had the civil rights leaders didn't stir up good trouble by often breaking the law?
     
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