Trump Bible grift update: Leader is in running for Education Secretary

Indoctrination Secretary.

 

I still don’t see how pushing a King James version of a single religion passes constitutional review but with the SCOTUS stacked with RW politicians maybe it will.

In the 60s we read a Bible verse 1st period every day in school and I was dragged to church 2-3 times a week and to Billy Graham crusades whenever he came to town or was on TV. I listened to it all with as much interest as do prison inmates hearing a daily devotional over the prison PA. Wont hurt the lil chillren probably but wont help them either. Just don’t see how this is constitutional or why this guy should even be considered for DOE for his unconstitutional policy.

Instead, why not propose a Sec DOE with proven educational results. One that has measurably improved education in his/her state or large district? Its Dept of EDUCATION not spiritual guidance.

 

Who knows what the stooges in black robes will do when it reaches them. Maybe they will make it compulsory nation wide. Praise be.

 

A bit off topic but this thread reminds me of my granddaughter who attends a Baptist preschool. She is learning all the Christian traditions , singing the songs etc. Very cute.
However when it comes to the biblical stories they teach, (Jesus on the cross, parting of the Red Sea, etc) she and her friends always gets them mixed up and confused. Seems like a waste of time considering the result but always good for a laugh hearing the stories recited.

 

"We are in the middle of a turn-around here, because we're following President Trump's agenda."

Trump's experience bankrupting businesses, starring on a reality show, and grabbing women in their tender parts enable him to........ provide masterful leadership on education.

 

you are ranked 48th. you are continuing to fail..ez response

 

trump’s educational agenda was to pay a smart kid to take the SAT for him.

The guy should be following a do better educational agenda and not a political slogan/agenda. The dude is trying hard for the DOE isn’t he?

 

When I was in elementary school we recited the Lord's Prayer every morning. I still remember the words "Our father who chart in heaven Harold be thy name". Not intending to be disrespectful or to ridicule a sincere religious belief but requiring the rote recitation of a prayer that is not part of a young student's religious tradition accomplishes nothing and actually demeans the religion that advocates of the school prayer requirement is trying to promote.

 

Oklahoma attorney general says state schools superintendent cannot mandate students watch prayer video

The Oklahoma attorney general's office responded after the state's education superintendent sent an email this week to public school administrators requiring them to show students his video announcement of a new Department of Religious Freedom and Patriotism. In the video, he prays for President-elect Trump.

Ryan Walters, a Republican, announced the new office on Wednesday and on Thursday sent the email to school superintendents statewide. The new department will be within the state's Department of Education. Walters said it would "oversee the investigation of abuses to individual religious freedom or displays of patriotism."

"In one of the first steps of the newly created department, we are requiring all of Oklahoma schools to play the attached video to all kids that are enrolled," according to the email. Districts were also told to send the video to all parents of students.

****

"Not only is this edict unenforceable, it is contrary to parents' rights, local control and individual free-exercise rights," said the attorney general's office spokesperson Phil Bacharach.

 

Should it be forced? No. Seems unconstitutional.

Is it a big deal? No. America did this for generations and it was during some of the most united times the nation aver saw.

A little drama is always necessary I guess.

 

So no problem with equal time for all religions?

Little context...under God is not how this country was founded or intended. Church has ZERO place in gubmnt.

 

It is a big deal. What is the goal? If it is to teach ethics and morals, philosophy of the Greeks and Stoicism is right there to read.

Demographics have changed. There are many more non-religious and of other faith. It’s inconvenient, but use the past encroachment on the Constitution establishment clause isn’t a good argument to just let it happen now.

 

Right, states brazenly violating the constitution is no big deal.

 

I knew you'd be upset about that. Maybe next time the can cover the book with Leftist human flesh, to give it ironic appeal.

All kidding aside, if they had used real leather, the PETA freaks on the Left would have cried out loud for using dead animal skins to bind a Bible.

 

Yes, there aren't any Bibles with leather. It is unheard of.

 

The requirement of the KJV is pretty amusing. I always chuckle inside when I hear modern day folks praying with thees and thous. You might as well pray in a pirate dialect.

 

The pledge didnt have that, but contrary to some revisionist history, most of our founding fathers were not simply "deists". Arguably you can 5 or less that were. Most were actually Theistic Rationalists. Which blended Christianity, rationality and Theism.

The big difference is that Theistic Rationalists thought that God was actively involved in human life, whereas a deist would not believe that.

Also the colonies adapted their own constitutions during the revolution that were much more "Christian" than the US Constitution that would be settled upon later.

My point is not that Christianity or religion should be forced In schools. The Constitution says that it should not. That is the law of the land. But it should be as freely available as individuals want it to be in schools.

The notion that we were not a nation founded "under God" however is one that you have to twist history to arrive at.