Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

Spirit Airlines files for bankruptcy

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by OklahomaGator, Nov 18, 2024 at 10:53 AM.

  1. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

    123,275
    163,968
    116,973
    Apr 3, 2007
    Spirit Airlines files for bankruptcy


    I wonder if another airline will buy them now.
     
    • Informative Informative x 3
  2. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

    123,275
    163,968
    116,973
    Apr 3, 2007
    I do know that with Boeing's problems they are way behind on airplane deliveries so maybe Spirit can sell some of their planes to other airlines. However, they are probably leased but could get other airlines to take over those leases.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  3. thomadm

    thomadm VIP Member

    2,866
    700
    2,088
    Apr 9, 2007
    The budget airlines have been on life support since COVID, so not surprising. These companies are learning that the cost of doing business cant be cut too much, the fixed costs are too high for airlines.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  4. thomadm

    thomadm VIP Member

    2,866
    700
    2,088
    Apr 9, 2007
    I believe that Spirit is all airbus. I dont know if they were planning on buying the 737 max, but if they did, might be a stupid decision on there part irrespective of the Boeing issues. A cheap carrier needs to reduce training and maintenance costs by sticking with one airplane model.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  5. g8orbill

    g8orbill Old Gator Moderator Premium Member VIP Member

    124,568
    56,513
    114,663
    Apr 3, 2007
    Clermont, Fl
    JetBlue had a deal to buy them but the US District Court in bastun said it would violate antitrust laws
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  6. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

    123,275
    163,968
    116,973
    Apr 3, 2007
    With all of the airlines that doesn't seem logical to me. Maybe they would have had a monopoly on some routes and airports?
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  7. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    88,080
    26,461
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007
    Yep...
     
  8. VAg8r1

    VAg8r1 GC Hall of Fame

    20,946
    1,738
    1,763
    Apr 8, 2007
    Seems that the Antitrust Division of the DOJ made a major miscalculation when it blocked the merger of Spirit with JetBlue. Just my opinion and it's way too late since they all occurred over 10 years ago, the mergers of UAL and Continental, Delta and Northwest and American and US Air should have been blocked. Those were much more anti-competitive than the Spirit- JetBlue merger would have been.
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
  9. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

    31,645
    12,062
    3,693
    Aug 26, 2008
    yet the Alaska Hawaiin merger was approved.Jet Blue and Spirit had a lot of crossover

    surprised Spirit did this knowing that djt commerce will approve any and every merger that is proposed. reorganize and then merge with JB after shedding debt and antitrust becomes a faint memory?
     
  10. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    16,123
    1,191
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    “pandemic caused swoon” the reason we can’t have nice things.
     
  11. vaxcardinal

    vaxcardinal GC Hall of Fame

    7,142
    1,080
    2,043
    Apr 8, 2007
    I would never fly spirit anyways, too much nickel and diming
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  12. slocala

    slocala VIP Member

    3,041
    738
    2,028
    Jan 11, 2009
    Bad business model. Lease payment and high debt = can’t have low costs in a rising cost environment. Good time to flush the equity holders. Debt is going to make out like bandits. GLP-1 drugs should reduce weight and improve fuel efficiency.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  13. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

    29,897
    1,861
    1,968
    Apr 19, 2007
    Its fine for a short flight and trip
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  14. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    18,273
    1,567
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
  15. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    18,273
    1,567
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    I have no insight and speak on ignorance. But I doubt they sell any planes.

    Either JetBlue ends up with a better deal or they restructure and maybe pay penalties to not take the 100 Airbuses they have on order.
     
  16. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    18,273
    1,567
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    They have plans to buy another 100 Airbus with with option for 50 more they signed in 2019 according to wiki. Assume they have taken some of those by now. Not sure how many they have left to receive.
     
  17. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

    18,273
    1,567
    1,308
    Aug 24, 2009
    Ocala
    Who knows. The big three/four (Southwest now is ahead of United) maybe cried? But JetBlue was 8 and Spirit 7 for passengers carried in 2023. If you combined them they would still be half of United which is 4th biggest for passengers carried.
     
  18. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

    123,275
    163,968
    116,973
    Apr 3, 2007
    I really doubt they actually own any of their planes, they are probably all leased.
     
  19. thomadm

    thomadm VIP Member

    2,866
    700
    2,088
    Apr 9, 2007
    Smart move on that at least, the A320/321neo is a great plane, much better than the 737. Boeing really should have started with a new design instead of repurposing a 1960s design with new engines and avionics. One of the major carriers will probably snatch them up pretty quick like American or Delta, since Boeing is late on 737 deliveries.
     
  20. thomadm

    thomadm VIP Member

    2,866
    700
    2,088
    Apr 9, 2007
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1