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Trump's plan for mass deportations

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Nov 8, 2024.

  1. gtr2x

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    Well I certainly agree with that second sentence. Same here.

    As for the first, I think we know as much, if not more, about the Trump/Melania relationships as we do about Harris's, yet the maga crowd had no problem speculating, calling Harris a "ho".
     
  2. VAg8r1

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  3. duggers_dad

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    Maybe as a pilot Trump could start by deporting bald childless cat ladies ?
     
  4. GatorJMDZ

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    Jackie Kennedy stayed with John and she had 1000x the class Melania does.
     
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  5. reboundgtr

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    So was Kennedy and Clinton, your point is?
     
  6. reboundgtr

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    off topic, whatever happened to GatorMatt?
     
  7. reboundgtr

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    Which one is it this time?
     
  8. g8orbill

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    who Trump may or may not have slept with has ZERO to do with his mass deportation plan. If they are here illegally, they will be faced with a choice - either they will have to hope they can hide and not get caught or they will have to leave on their own- if we find them they WILL be deported, and they should be- they have no legal right to be in our country
     
  9. rump74

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    Yep bye bye slave labor. You're about to have to pay more for your lawn service so the men mowing it can have workers comp. Or dont and mow it yourself. Or dont and let it look like a Venezuelan yard.
    Youll remark "DAMN! This expensive!". Hopefully it will start the internal conversation of "Is it expensive or has my money lost its store of value?".
    You wanna know how rich or poor you really are? The next time you need a tool or toaster, search out one made in the USA.
     
  10. PITBOSS

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    There will not be mass deportations.
     
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  11. AzCatFan

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    There's a way to say bye to "slave labor" while not causing the labor shortages that will cause prices to rise, also known as inflation. It's doing what Reagan did in the 80s. Make the labor legal, giving them a way to complain about unfair practices.
     
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  12. VAg8r1

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    Agree although we should also keep in mind that the culture of the 1950s and '60s was completely different than the culture of today.
     
  13. g8orbill

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    one of RR's biggest mistakes imnsho
     
  14. VAg8r1

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    While the voters who helped elect Trump may not use the services of landscapers or live-in nannies they definitely purchase produce and meat products. Something tells me that they're not going to be pleased when the price of a head of lettuce is a dollar more next year than it is today. The same for the price of their turkey come Thanksgiving 2025 or the price of their bologna or chicken.
     
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  15. AzCatFan

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    The mistake was not setting up a program to deal with newer and future arrivals. Something that we could have fixed in 2007 and 2013 with the Gang of 8.

    As for Trump's plan, it will cost the US billions to execute, and billions more in GDP loss and inflation. But don't just take my word for it. From a recent NY Times article:

    “That gargantuan shock will cost trillions of dollars in economic growth, eliminating hundreds of thousands of jobs held by U.S. natives,” said Michael Clemens, an economics professor at George Mason University who focuses on migration. “It will quickly raise inflation, by reducing the capacity of U.S. firms to supply goods and services faster than it reduces demand.”

    There’s plenty of precedent for this projection. You could start with the past eight years: A slowdown in immigration during the first Trump administration and a full hiatus over the pandemic created a shortfall of workers. That was part of what allowed prices to jump in 2021 and 2022, both by driving up wages and by limiting the supply of goods and services, according to officials at the Federal Reserve and other analysts.

    You thought inflation was bad post COVID? Try not only stopping the flow of immigrants at the border, but also deporting the 8 million here currently in our workforce!
     
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  16. BLING

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    Find me a toaster made in the USA. You probably can’t, and that has nothing to do with immigrant labor here. It’s a result of free trade.

    The reason there is no toaster made in the USA is that countries like China effectively employ slave labor in their factories. I actually looked into this a few years back (last time I needed a toaster), and the only model made in the western world was out of the Uk, and it sells for $300. The brand was called Dualit, and guess what even at $300 they are taking production out of the U.K.

    You seem to be of the delusion that it’s only going to be “rich libz” paying more for lawn care. The reality is that worker shortages will span into agriculture and construction. If we also get “across the board tariffs” prepare for shortages and massive inflation even compared to 2022.
     
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  17. g8orbill

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    it has to be done
     
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  18. rump74

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    Most Trump voters I know use landscape services.
     
  19. VAg8r1

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    If that's the case they would have also have voter's remorse when the cost of those services significantly increases. Between the mass deportations and resulting labor shortages and his proposed across the board tariffs the inflation responsible for the defeat of the Biden/Harris Administration will seem mild in contrast to the coming Trumpflation resulting from the Donald's policies.
     
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  20. rump74

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    I appreciate the reply. One thing I wont be doing for anyone is looking up stuff. Put in your own work. I try pretty hard to operate with a sense of good will and honesty. Small kitchen appliances as well as tools are still made in the USA. I know because Ive recently replaced tools, toaster and a slow cooker lost in hurricane Ian. I used it as an opportunity to show my teenage kids about money being a store of value.
    Were they expensive or are my dollars worth so little?
    The wealth of the middle and lower class has been purposely drained over the last 50 years. Cato Inst did an exhaustive and compelling study on it pre Covid. If i remember correctly, their figure was somewhere in the $70t range.