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So, where is all the election fraud?!?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by rtgator, Nov 7, 2024.

  1. obgator

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    Democrats are such evil nincompoops that they could steal the one election when they didn’t hold power, but couldn’t do it the two times they were actually in power.
     
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  2. gator_jo

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    Pretty sure Trump is right about to say that the PA results are invalid.

    Either that or he's a lying liar who was lying. Again.


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  3. vaxcardinal

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    Do you really not understand the context?
     
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  4. gator_jo

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    LOL, no but it would be funny to hear you Trumpsplain it.

    Would you mind explaining how Pennsylvania was cheating at "large scale levels never seen before?"

    Oh, and "getting caught". They were getting caught too, so please also explain that, if you don't mind.

    Or at least have the intellectual integrity to admit that Trump was lying. One or the other, please? The floor is yours.
     
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  5. vaxcardinal

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    So how much longer will you be butt hurt ?
     
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  6. gator_jo

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    That is your response to being politely asked to explain the lie......that you said is, I guess, just a matter of "context."

    Embarrassingly weak, I'm sure you'd agree.



    Here, in case you forgot. Surely you can explain this lie better than "butt hurt"?

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  7. GatorRade

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    Maybe I’m old school, Thom. While of course I agree that politics is all about appearances rather than truths, it would seem to me that we should recognize that some lies are out of bounds.

    For example, when my kid once asked how Santa can get across the whole Earth in one night, I replied “ I have no idea how a single person could do that.” This was not technically untrue, but clearly I was being intentionally misleading. Imagine instead that I covered for eating their Halloween candy by saying “Mom ate it. I would never do that, because I love you guys more than she does.” Again, I am misleading them for my own purposes, but threatening the bond between mother and child to excuse candy consumption just seems absolutely unacceptable.

    Indeed, all candidates cherry-pick among many expert analyses to cast their ideas in a positive light. However, almost no candidate has ever chose to cast doubt on our country’s most fundamental institutions in order to gain office. That action should simply be out of bounds. And while you say only liberals care what he says, we find that perhaps a majority of Republican voters believe the 2020 election was fraudulent. Were none of them influenced by Trump’s constant rhetoric on this point? No candidate, no matter how much better than the alternative, should be worth risking the American democratic system.
     
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  8. vaxcardinal

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    This tweet was in response to several early voting locations having difficulties which meant voters were unable to vote for several hours. Lawsuits were filed, and the results were that the polling stations had to stay open several hours past the their scheduled closing time. So clearly valid complaint by a party that was making sure everyone that wanted to vote got to vote.

    so I ask you, what was the purpose of posting the tweet given your support for the party that got demolished?
     
  9. rtgator

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    It's interesting that you acknowledge people have to stoop down to the level of Trump.
     
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  10. gator_jo

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    LOL, so was PA "cheating", like Trump said? You mention "difficulties." Was there ever actually any evidence of cheating?

    I bring this up because it's funny, sad and informative....to see your candidate lie, and to tear down the confidence in our elections.

    It's also funny to see people like you shill for him and pretzel up to try to defend his un-American lies.*


    Which, sadly for you, are still total outright lies, even though a lot of Americans clearly voted for a liar.
     
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  11. vaxcardinal

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    Not allowing people in to vote is cheating, don’t you think?
     
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  12. toon66

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    Yeah, I thought the election fraud crap was complete maga lunacy, but, which was a greater act of dishonesty?

    A) Trump’s claims of voter fraud

    B) The left’s (Democrats and Media) coordinated campaign that Biden was not only fit for office/reelection but sharper than he’s ever been?
     
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  13. tilly

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    There never was widespread fraud.

    But FSU didnt complain about officiating in the swindle...winning teams never do.

    But it didn't exist, so your point is true, I just think its weird to expect complaining when you win.
     
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  14. tilly

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    He said both sides lie. Do i need to post my Kamala fact check link again?

    What Trump did in Jan 2021 is unforgivable. He is unfit imo...but it isnt a lie to say both sides lie.

    Kamala had many whoppers basically unchecked and even some repeated here i would wager.
     
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  15. channingcrowderhungry

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    Bottom of a pint glass
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  16. citygator

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    "Yea Trump tried to steal the election and claimed it was crooked when we all knew it wasnt but both sides lie". I dont understand half of America but I will be very pleased taking their money over the next 4 years. Cant wait.
     
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  17. rtgator

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    I'm not expecting anyone to complain after winning this year. I'm hoping some begin to realize there was no widespread fraud this year, just like there was none in 2020 or 2016.

    The difference is narcissistic Trump can't handle LOSING. So, in 2020, he made up all the BS about nonexistent election fraud so people didn't think he was a LOSER.
     
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  18. GatorRade

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    I think your choice of metaphor largely predetermines your conclusion. Once we assume that the president of the United States will have no greater regard for the nation’s core institutions than the FSU football team does for officiating, we will of course not be surprised when he fails to care about nationwide fraud that went his way.

    I believe we should expect a lot more from the president. Once he only complains about fraud in an election in which he lost, it becomes clear it is his own interests, and not those of the nation, that he holds the most dear.
     
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  19. gator_jo

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    Is that what happened?

    I'm sure PA would charge someone with a crime for doing that. Don't you think?

    But is any of that what actually happened? Or was your political icon just lying again?
     
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    But the claim made was cheating, and fraud, Now you claim difficulty voting ,as in delays. Clearly one is unfortunate and the other is a lie. Choose.
     
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