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Will Joe Biden / Kamala Harris actually step aside if Donald Trump wins?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by flaglerg8tr, Nov 5, 2024 at 7:21 AM.

  1. flaglerg8tr

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    Well it's Election Day, and I am now prepared and here in my war room for the duration (no not an actual war room, but I have multiple TV's set up to watch multiple channels for the Election as well as food, alcohol and supplies ready). Most leftists here talk about Donald Trump not accepting the Election, but here's my question, if Donald Trump does win, will Joe Biden and Kamala Harris accept the Election and step aside?

    Think about this hard. Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have flat out said that Donald Trump is Hitler, that Donald Trump is a fascist, that Donald Trump will end Democracy here in the U.S.

    If all of that is true, and Donald Trump wins, can they step aside? In reality if they genuinely believe it, then they have to do anything that would stop Donald Trump from taking office, even if he wins. That could include additional attempts on his life, trying to get him ineligible to take office, or even not certifying the Election.

    Of course any of these actions will flat out cause the Second U.S. Civil War and I don't think they would realize that. But if they truly believe Donald Trump will end Democracy and turn U.S. into another Nazi Germany, can they in good conscience step aside if Donald Trump wins?

    If they do step aside without any issue, then what that tells me and most Americans is that it was all campaign rhetoric. That deep down they know Donald Trump is NOT Hitler, that Donald Trump will NOT end Democracy in the U.S. but will actually enhance it, and that Donald Trump will NOT turn the U.S. into Nazi Germany.

    In my opinion Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have put themselves in a tight corner. If Donald Trump wins and they step aside with no issues, then we know they were lying about the threat they think Donald Trump represents. If they truly believe Donald Trump will do all the things above, do they not have a moral obligation to not step aside and do everything in their power to prevent Donald Trump from taking office, even if it involves a Civil War?
     
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  2. BigCypressGator1981

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    If Trump wins she will give a concession speech and attend Trump‘s inauguration for a peaceful transfer of power. The same way it’s always been done except for once.
     
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  3. flaglerg8tr

    flaglerg8tr Sophomore

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    And so she will give over the keys willingly to the U.S. to someone she thinks is Hitler and will end the U.S.? Someone that she thinks will hunt down minorities like herself?

    She would then have to admit that it was all lies. That Donald Trump will ENHANCE Democracy, not end it. That Donald Trump is NOT Hitler and in fact would fight Hitler type wannabes. And that Donald Trump will NOT turn the U.S. into Nazi Germany.

    Of course we already know this. Donald Trump was already President for 4 years. We had peace, prosperity and a great economy until Covid, which would've destroyed the economy of any President, Republican or Democrat. Donald Trump did not turn the U.S. into Nazi Germany in his first 4 years. In fact he got us out of wars, not into wars.

    Look at history. History doesn't look fondly upon the government and leaders in Germany that gave over the keys to Germany to Hitler and the Nazis. If Kamala Harris truly believe Donald Trump is Hitler, does she want to risk having history not look at her in a positive light, but rather a very dark and negative light?

    If you were Kamala Harris, and you lost to Donald Trump, and you truly believe Donald Trump was Hitler and would turn the U.S. into Nazi Germany, could you peacefully give over control of the U.S. to that person in good conscience?
     
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  4. GatorNorth

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    Trump: I shouldn’t have left in 2020.

    Trump supporter: Wonder if Biden will leave?

    Project much?
     
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  5. BigCypressGator1981

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    If America wants to elect a fascist demagogue to be the president that’s who we will elect. That’s the will of the people. That’s how democracy works.

    Kamala isn’t lying nor is she a hypocrite for pointing out what Trump is.
     
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  6. flaglerg8tr

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    Did Trump ever say Biden was a threat to Democracy? Because Biden and Kamala have both said Trump is a threat to Democracy?

    This isn't about Trump. This is about Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. If they truly believe what they say about Trump, can they in good conscience leave the White House and give the keys over to a man they think will destroy the U.S.?
     
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  7. okeechobee

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    I wouldn’t be surprised if they come up with some shit before he’s inaugurated. 100%
     
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  8. flaglerg8tr

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    And what fascist ideas did Trump implement during his first 4 years in office? What wars did he gets us into? (Hint: None). How many industries did the Federal Government take over? (Hint: None). Did he have his own force of police impose he political will and ideologies? (Hint: No he didn't). Trump didn't instill any of the fascist ideas in his first term that you somehow believe he would in a second term. I tend to look at someone's past and think that's a good predictor of their future. Donald Trump believes in Democracy. Donald Trump is not even remotely like Hitler. And Donald Trump is not even remotely a fascist.
     
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  9. citygator

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    There is no logic fallacy that you are exposing. Try a new thread.
     
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  10. flaglerg8tr

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    Agreed. And I would actually argue that they have a moral duty to if they believe Donald Trump would do half the things they say he will do in a second term. That they would have a moral duty not to accept the results.
     
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  12. channingcrowderhungry

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    Projection
     
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  13. mikemcd810

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    It's not their personal decision to make no matter what they believe. We have elections for a reason. To refuse to hand over the keys to Trump they would become the exact same thing they've been warning about. That would be the true hypocritical outcome.
     
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  14. flaglerg8tr

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    Which would fit them. They project onto Republicans what they really believe. That call Republicans racists when it's them who see race in everything and are actually the racists. They say Republicans want to strip rights, when it's them who would love to end the 1st and 2nd Amendments. It's the left who projects onto Republicans what they really are.

    The first politician to not accept an Election result wasn't Donald Trump, it was their own Stacey Abrams who to do this day has never conceded the 2018 Georgia Governor's Race.

    They project what they want to do. I think even if Donald Trump wins they will try every trick in the book to prevent him from ever taking office.

    And while it isn't their decision, it's not like they would be alone. Half of the country, including many of the leftists on this board and even this very thread, would cheer them on and support them in trying to prevent Donald Trump from taking office. They would gladly throw away the Constitution if it meant Donald Trump doesn't become President. They wouldn't be alone on an island.
     
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  15. BigCypressGator1981

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    yes they can and they would should she lose. If the American people want to destroy America by electing trump then so be it.
     
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  16. danmanne65

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    I would say Al Gore in 2000 is a better example.
     
  17. BigCypressGator1981

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    you WANT them to refuse to step down. You clearly have a very unhealthy political violence fetish. Seek help.

    And for the love of god will the mods ban this troll? How many times are you going to let Orlando create new handles and spam the board with this shit?
     
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  18. citygator

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    Troll thread. Trump tried an insurrection and the OP wants to call Harris voters racists who want to take over undemocratically. Checks out.
     
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  19. GatorNorth

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    Biden won’t leave the White House. He’ll just change his name and stick around, much like the OP keeps doing.
     
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  20. okeechobee

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    Yes, they may attempt to do this many ways. #1 is the obvious sentencing hearing later this month in NY. But they could attempt to fast-track other prosecutions as well. I am not taking for granted that even a popular vote win for Trump tonight would stop them. I am not sure if they'll do it under the guise of "moral duty." That remains to be seen.