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Spotting the ball

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Oct 26, 2024.

  1. g8orbill

    g8orbill Old Gator Moderator Premium Member VIP Member

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    in this day and age why don’t we have the ability to know exactly where the needs to be spotted- watching UCF vs BYU- BYU ball carrier crossed over the out of bounds a yard behind the line and yer somehow the ball was reached out after he crossed the sideline to be marked as a 1st down
     
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  2. Gatorrick22

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    I've re-watched the Kentucky game several times... love Gator wins, and I counted at least 5 times that the refs jobbed us for at least 1 yard. Twice for 2 yards.
     
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  4. Gatorrick22

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    That BYU side judge just screwed UCF again on an outside completion pass play...
     
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    Job security, technology bad!
     
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    You would think that if they develop an invisible fence for dogs they could use the same technology on a football field. Put a chip on each and of the ball then imbed a wire in the field along the out of bounds, goal line and yard lines. Should be able to tell you exactly where the ball should be marked.
     
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  8. g8orbill

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  9. paidinfull

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    Except they all lunge forward after they’re down. You’d need something that could also mark when they’re actually down and as you’ve seen umpteen million times on replay, it’s not that easy to catch on camera everytime.
     
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  10. Bowiegator

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    Btw this happens every game sec refs are doing our games. Noticed it for years
     
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  11. Gatorrick22

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    It gets far worse in change of possession/s... or in the middle-ish of the field.

    But the way they all do it is almost written in some text book because of the similarity...

    They look almost disinterested in the ball spot, and then seem to wonder into the sidelines in an apparent attempt to break up a "potential" fight on the sidelines, that never seems to happen... Then, when they come back to the spot, and it's suddenly WAY OFF... That's the most obvious "distraction" they implement in an effort to look like they may have lost the real spot to begin with... It's VERY obvious... VERY old... and very NOT SNEAKY. And it has to stop.

    Another way is the line judge follows so far behind that they "seem" to have lost perspective on the spot, and they rip one or two yards off from our position on the field because they never seem to follow the ball carrier from the slideline, they almost alway stay behind the player's forward motion.

    Go back to the '70's and even some of the '80's replays of college football games and the line judge runs parallel with the ball carrier to get an HONEST view of the ball carriers forward progress because his running WITH THE BALL CARRIER ALONG THE SIDELINES. They never do that anymore... the lag far behind. That's a build in excuse to potentially mis-spottin the ball/forward progress.

    The other is that way that some refs mark the ball spot by the first part of the body that hits the ground, irrespective of where the ball was when that happened. Like (example) if the ball carrier is falling forward, and the shin hits the ground with the ball carrier fully extended towards the first down... Sometimes they spot that short especially if the player is going out of bounds in the middle-ish of the field. And they never let the re-play look at the ball spot, because it's almost always done in the hurry-up situation.

    There are other examples, but you get the point. They think we can't see these shenanigans, but we do... and they seem to get away with most of these cheats... most of the time.
     
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  12. uftaipan

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    I’m sure it has happened somewhere, sometime, but I have never seen a poor spot overturned on review, no matter how egregious.
     
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  13. Gatorrick22

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    That seems about right, but I have seen the opposite happen to the Gators.

    Remember the Auburn game a few years ago in The Swamp? We got a first down and then Gus called for a spot review, and it looked very obvious that the refs made the right call. But on the replay, they changed our first down and made it 4th down... So, these dirty refs have no compunction about screwing The Gators in broad daylight.

    And, these dirty SEC refs will never stop ripping us off for one or two yards on ball spots while the SEC league's main offices are located in the state of Alabama.
     
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  14. paidinfull

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    I’ve seen it moved at the end of the half or end of the game before. Almost never reviewed during the other 55 minutes.
     
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    What cracks me up is if the ball ends up anywhere inside the one yard line, it usually gets spotted directly on the one.
     
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    I can't get behind conspiracy theories against Florida as an orchestrated thing but I do believe people are inherently biased. Tebow was literally left off of Heisman ballots in order to assure he didn't win back to back Heismans.

    The Swindle was more a case of a conference looking after their financial interests and if people don't believe it happens or that referees can be corrupted then I guess Tim Donaghy never happened...

    Not sure how to explain some of the calls that have gone against us over the years or some of the calls that have been ignored like when Tyree Cleveland was literally dragged down to the ground in front of the ref against LSU when Trask was picked off in the emdzone on a game tying TD attempt. I know as a gator it would be hard not to see a close call go our way if there was any doubt....

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  17. GolphinGator

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    I have seen Georgia benefit from respotted balls at least 3 times over the last 6 years in games against Florida and never remember seeing it before.
     
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  18. Gatorrick22

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    Yep, and not to get on a tangent, but the big-12 area Heisman voters were behind that BS of leaving Tim Tebow off of their ballots. And Texas with A&M were in the thick of it. That's why we need to win out. Lol... :D:)

    If we do win-out, and that cow school wins out, we both play against each other again, this time in the SECCG.
     
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    We need to find you a new hobby rick
     
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  20. Gatorrick22

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    You're right, my friend.