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Amendment 3 - Everybody Must Get Stoned

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Oct 25, 2024 at 8:45 PM.

  1. PITBOSS

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    Lots of info on amendment 4, but haven’t seen much debate on 3. How have other states fared after they legalize it. Anyone live in Colorado?
    Curious how some of you are voting on this.

    “preliminary results from the broader ongoing research project suggest increased use is not necessarily accompanied by increased behavioral problems.”

    “Cannabis use is not without risk, particularly for adolescents and young adults.”

    https://www.colorado.edu/today/2022...ing-cannabis-colorado-heres-what-weve-learned

    Crime rate impact….

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...do-crime-rates-dampen-the-rocky-mountain-high
     
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  2. gator_lawyer

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    I voted yes. Why? Freedom and revenue.
     
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  3. exiledgator

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    Maine legalized rec a few years ago and now our state is over run with Mexican cartels, all the kids are high and dropping out, and teen pregnancy is rampant.

    No wait, I got confused cause I'm high (this is true).

    Maine's pretty much the same. There's just dispensaries on every corner. And an extra $40m a year in tax revenue from sales alone. (About 0.1% of the state budget).
     
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  4. channingcrowderhungry

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    If alcohol is legal weed should be legal. If you feel otherwise I don't understand your metrics of freedom
     
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  5. sflagator

    sflagator VIP Member Trusted GC Insider

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    All the way back when they passed the marijuana tax act the AMA testified before Congress that marijuana was not addictive or harmful. Of course Congress - controlled by Dems at the time - ignored it. Why? Because the AMA had come out against every single piece of new deal legislation and so the Democrats weren't going to listen to what they had to say about anything.

    Nothing has changed since then with regard to marijuana.
     
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  6. Emmitto

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    “No wait, I got confused cause I'm high (this is true)”

    Hahaha!
     
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  7. Emmitto

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    This is one we have all done, unless you are incredibly insufferable.

    It is truly no big deal.

    I don’t even bother. It has minimal effect on me. I was hoping to be a maniac weed smoker by now.

    I am around power users who do indeed feel it.

    Just saying that if I kill a handle of Jack I ain’t just strolling through that.

    Weed is less universally potent than the beer cave at 7-Eleven.
     
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  8. gator_lawyer

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    I mean, I bet you do understand their metrics of freedom. It's called "freedom for me, but not for thee."
     
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  9. mrhansduck

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  10. gatorpa

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    Then there is this.

    From the paper “Emergency department (ED) visits involving psychosis and schizophrenia have increased at a rate exceeding population growth in the United States over the past decade. Research shows a strong dose-response relationship between chronic use of high-potency cannabis and odds of developing symptoms of psychosis. The aim of this study was to evaluate the impact of cannabis legalization on psychosis and schizophrenia-related ED visits in Colorado.”

    “There was a positive association between the number of cannabis dispensaries and rates of psychosis ED visits across all counties in Colorado. Although it is unclear whether it is access to products, or the types of products that may be driving this association, our findings suggest there is a potential impact on the mental health of the local population that is observed after cannabis legalization.”


    Impact of cannabis legalization on healthcare utilization for psychosis and schizophrenia in Colorado - PubMed
     
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  11. mrhansduck

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    Watched this debate about Amendment 3 recently.

     
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  12. mrhansduck

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    DeSantis and his Surgeon General, Ladapo, were in my town today fighting against the amendment and sounding pretty dramatic. Grotesque? Enslavement?

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    Dr. Ladapo doubled down on the governor's claims that Amendment 3 will only hurt the citizens of Florida.

    "It is truly grotesque," he said. "You're going to wave a freedom flag because we all love freedom, but really it's enslavement. And it's going to be a one-sided relationship, because if you have any problems, you're on your own."
     
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  13. gator_lawyer

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    Ladapo is an embarrassment. Send that guy packing with Napier and Stricklin.
     
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  14. gatorchamps0607

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/04/us/cannabis-marijuana-risks-addiction.html

    About 18 million people — nearly a third of all users ages 18 and up — have reported symptoms of cannabis use disorder, according to estimates from a unique data analysis conducted for The Times by a Columbia University epidemiologist. That would mean they continue to use the drug despite significant negative effects on their lives. Of those, about three million people are considered addicted.

    The estimates are based on responses to the 2022 U.S. national drug use survey from people who reported any cannabis consumption within the previous year. The results are especially stark among 18- to 25-year-olds: More than 4.5 million use the drug daily or near daily, according to the estimates, and 81 percent of those users meet the criteria for the disorder.

    A study in 11 sites across Europe found that people who regularly consumed marijuana with at least 10 percent THC were nearly five times as likely to develop a psychotic disorder as those who never used it. A study in Ontario found that the risk of developing one was 11 times as high for teenage users compared with nonusers. And researchers estimated that as many as 30 percent of cases of schizophrenia among men in Denmark ages 21 to 30 could be attributed to cannabis use disorder.
     
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  16. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Let’s just pass it and we’ll find out later how it turns out. Lol
    Not sure we’re making our world better or freer.
    If anything I’ve noticed people are not to be trusted with too much freedom, especially if they’re constantly stoned.
     
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  17. citygator

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    Not a fan. I don’t have to inhale your beer as you walk by but smoke travels. Let’s just legalize heroine instead. I don’t have to smell that. :)
     
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  18. homer

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    Fwiw

    You can get a card in Florida by visiting a doctor and stating you need it for sleep, nausea, PTSD, anxiety, etc. Easy peasy.

    Those that really want it can get it if they have the time and a couple hundred bucks.
     
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  19. GCNumber7

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    I’m voting yes simply because the whole medical weed industry is a joke. 99.9% of ‘patients’ just want to get high. The ‘doctors’ are just looking to make money. I’ve had medical cards in CA and FL. The whole doctor visit is a farce. You cough a couple of times and get recommended for medical mj. My first medical card I got in LA. It came with a tie dye background.
     
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  20. 96Gatorcise

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    I voted yes but it's not a good bill.

    It's a corporate bill. It doesn't allow for an individual to grow their own plants for personal use. That should have been in the bill.
     
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