Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Why?

 

The last they want to hear is a logical argument

 

Births down

 

Why did this happen?

 

AzCatFan might not want to hear about this

 

VAERS is open source and unverified. It's not a legitimate source for data.

And the evidence the vaccine caused excess death? Easily debunked and 100% wrong.

 

Ivermectin, vaccines … same thing.

Horse paste and vax clingers.

 

The excess deaths of 2020 can easily be explained without reference to a virus.

Vax clingers need to explain why excess deaths were even higher, in 2021, when the vaccine was available and uptake was robust.

 

Last ased on CDC data, the most cited cardiologist in the world says 551,000 Americans have died from the COVID vax.

AzCatFan says the correct number is <100.

Nothing I post will convince AzCatFan of anything.

 

From one of the inventors of mRNA technology (he claims)



17M deaths worldwide from the vax?
That number seems high to me

 

I don’t claim to know how many have died of the vaccines, but I do argue that millions of vaccine deaths worldwide can easily be obscured given that billions of vaccines have been administered.

 

Contrary to what Team Donkey might think I like to have an open mind and not engage in motivated reasoning.

I haven't looked at the data about deaths from the vax that occurred to our military personnel from the vax. They were mandated to take it i think the deaths to the military people was a lot less than many anti-vaxxers expected.

Often the truth ends up being somewhere in the middle.

I'll listen to what you guys say with an open mind. Arguing about it makes me sleepy tho

 

You posted data showing that the vaccines were still highly effective during delta.

 

I see Dr Robert Malone (one of the inventors of mRNA tech) posted this about an hour ago.

 

Robert Malone? Please. Again, easily debunked.

 

You have an open mind? Why post crap from easily debunked sources before searching for the truth first? This one debunks your claim from the cardiologist.

 

As I said the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

Your estimate of US COVID vax deaths (<100) and other claims are:

 

The insouciance makes me gagged. People who claimed that vaccines harmed or killed their loved ones were and continue to be gaslit while the Albert Bourlas continue to line their pockets.

 

Ivermectin when given by a doctor is not dangerous period. I never took it when I presumably had Covid (I certainly did not test but based on community infections and symptoms I have had it 2 or 3 times all post omicron granted BA4 or BA5 was the first and every time it was nothing but a minor cold with tiredness). Never would have. But if a doctor wants to use a cheap drug with safety record that has decades to its name. No issue here. Like the covid shot I would have said no. My buddy used it and said it worked for him.

The real problem with Covid is that some of you fell for the one size fits all for every single human being. Which is the antithesis of science and medicine when it comes to something like Covid.

 

No. I posted data that showed the shot was ineffective at preventing Covid (which we were told it was effective at preventing). And that the majority of people who died from Covid were vaccinated once the majority of people were vaccinated. Why? Because old people with comorbidities are the one group at risk. We could take this down another tangent that gets at the fascism in medicine. But you are probably lined up to take all sorts of unnecessary tests…