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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. AzCatFan

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    First off, to continue the microbiology education, mRNA is in every living thing. It's created when the body needs a protein. DNA cannot be decoded directly, so messenger RNA (mRNA) does the decoding from DNA to protein. It's also the specific mRNA in a virus or bacteria that triggers the body's immune system. All vaccines are based on mRNA. 100%. It's just traditional ones use attenuated viruses also known as variants, whereas new vaccines just take the needed mRNA code, which is why they are much safer.

    As for vaccine deaths, in the US, less than 100. And those were mostly from the Johnson and Johnson vaccine given to women of birthing age. Worldwide? Difficult to say, because so many different vaccines were created and distributed. After the 9 J&J deaths in the US, we pulled the entire vaccine off the market. But it might have been used in less developed countries.

    The vaccine also saved a ton more lives than it hurt. Just look at the chart. The unvaccinated had much higher death rates than vaccinated.

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    But what about all the sudden cardiac deaths, you ask? Well, the rates actually fell post vaccine. The first link is for all of England. This link is for athletes. Same results.
     
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  2. duggers_dad

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    Again, EVERYONE agrees that any vaccine MAY injure or even KILL, however rare those deaths may be.

    There is NO scientific evidence for anything to vaccinate for, only a fraudulent diagnostic sustaining the perception of a pandemic.

    Excess mortality was STAGGERINGLY high AFTER vaccine rollout and even into 2023.
     
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  3. vegasfox

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    This post won't age well. Vaccinology seems to be a new religion for many on Team Donkey. We'll get into it at some point, right now I'm focused on the election
     
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  4. duggers_dad

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    Come on man! is not an argument.
     
  5. HeyItsMe

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    Sure, Jan. It’s the left who is pro science and medicine and whose population makes up basically 99% of the world’s doctors and scientists, but yeah, it’s the right who has nothing but ignorance and anecdotes to go off of who will be proven right. Lmfao. I’m a pharmacist and I administer vaccines for a living - you do know that once you receive a vaccine the majority of it pretty much is out of your body after no more than 15 minutes, right? People aren’t all of a sudden going to drop dead years later, lol.
     
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    For honest work Uber Eats is hiring.
     
  7. vegasfox

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    I had the highest entrance exam score of everyone in my pharmacy class. I also deal in probabilities for a living. For the young and the healthy the Vax was net negative imo.
     
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  8. AzCatFan

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    Prove it! Show some statistics and academic studies.
     
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  9. duggers_dad

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    Has there ever been a study done on whether exorcism is a net positive or a net negative ?
     
  10. vegasfox

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    I listen to what some of the most cited cardiologists say. Yesterday I heard one talk about the Vaers data. which he said undercounts harm by a factor of 30. I think he said Vaers shows 1600 COVID Vax deaths. Doctors have to feel Vax caused death with 100% surety or he said they won't put it into VAERS. Just an example. There are so many variables and confounders and BS stats it's hardly worth my time to argue w/ you
     
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  11. AzCatFan

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    VAERS is an open source, anyone can post database. It's great at detecting potential early trends. What is does not do is be a predictor of any problems with any sense of accuracy. From Johns Hopkins:

    “The COVID vaccine especially is where VAERS has gotten so misused,” Talaat says. “Eighty percent of people in this country have gotten at least one dose. Well, a lot of things have happened to 80% of people in the last two years that are unrelated to the vaccine.”

    In particular, Talaat adds, many anti-vaccination proponents misattributed reported deaths after COVID-19 vaccination as evidence that the vaccines are not safe. “You are supposed to report deaths in a certain period after vaccination,” she says. “But the reality is, if you are 90 years old and have a heart attack, or diabetes, or are in the hospital [at the time of vaccination], it’s probably not related [to the vaccination].”

    Still, a team investigates each report of death. So far, the only deaths related to COVID-19 vaccination have been extremely rare cases after the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
    1,600 deaths in the US from the vaccine? Show your work! As JHU states, the only actual COVID vaccine deaths were from the J&J vaccine, women of birthing age. Tragic, but small number. And in response to these deaths, the CDC pulled the J&J vaccine completely from US shelves.
     
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  12. vegasfox

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    Nothing I show you will prove anything. The statistics I gave match perfectly with what the most cited cardiologist in the world said on this video which I told you I viewed yesterday..




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  13. VAg8r1

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    Is that this guy?
    Lawsuit: Doc Using Old Baylor Affiliation While Dishing COVID Vax Falsehoods
    In several media interviews, McCullough has spread misinformation about COVID-19 vaccines and treatments. He has claimedopens in a new tab or window that there is no scientific reason for healthy people under 50 and those who have recovered from COVID to get the vaccine, and has asserted that 50,000 Americans have died from the shots. According to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting Systemopens in a new tab or window (VAERS), there have been 6,490opens in a new tab or window deaths after COVID vaccination -- and it's unclear if the immunizations were the actual cause of death in these cases.
    Baylor Gets Restraining Order Against COVID Vaccine Skeptic Doc
    Doctor’s misleading vaccine claims spread online | European Newsroom
     
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  14. HeyItsMe

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    Looks like we have a new Q who has decided to join the Covid thread, lol.
     
  15. vegasfox

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    Like I said it doesn't matter who I cite it won't change your minds. Peter McCullough has made some of the best contributions to science of any cardiologist and yes when he's been wrong chances are I already know all about it
     
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  16. QGator2414

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    For whatever reason there are a couple that refuse to accept reality. It was clear to anyone with a brain that the shot failed as delta completely obliterated the idea it worked.

    Doctors were in a tough spot going through it. But the cdc sadly became a political agenda pushing agency that decided to stop following basic science and medicine. People should go to jail for it. But they will not. There is a reason for over two years very few have been taking the shot. And now almost no one. Yet the idiots at the cdc recommend it. The vast majority in medicine know the shot is not necessary and potentially dangerous now. The real frustrating thing is the people who have fallen for the propaganda and still put it in their kids. Want to cause unnecessary inflammation in your own body via ignorance. Go for it. But when you harm kids it is evil. And sadly some are easily duped by the idiots at the cdc. They are not the evil. It is the idiots not following basic science and medicine.
     
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  17. QGator2414

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    McCullough was the one who was right!

    And…

    This is news from 2021 when they were trying to silence doctors. The doctors who were right by the way. These fools that tried to silence people like McCullough are a disgrace to science and medicine.
     
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  18. VAg8r1

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    The third link was from the 2023 and he was still promoting Ivermectin as a treatment for Covid. Other than a few studies in areas in which parasites are endemic there have been no trials indicating that the anti-parasitic is an effective treatment for Covid and the logical explanation is that an infestation of parasites is treated patients are better able to fight a Covid infection.
     
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  19. vaxcardinal

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    Are you talking deaths in people that had gotten the vaccine or deaths actually caused by the vaccine?
     
  20. vegasfox

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    Deaths caused by the vaccine
     
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