Vast Majority of Americans Support Photo ID and proof of Citizenship to vote

At the very least, there needs to be some kind of standard. In Estonia you can vote from your laptop and I'd bet any amount it's 1000x more secure than ours.

Correct re. FL. I just show my license.

 

That would be stupid. The wall is a typical Trump fools gold idea as any border plan that doesn't call for a minimum doubling of border patrol is not a serious solution. But, what can you say? MAGA gonna Moron every time.

 

Florida requires photo ID. I was distinguishing the different forms of ID required in the states (photo versus no photo) as well as a separate/additional requirement to provide proof of citizenship.

 

Anyone not wanting ID required to Vote makes me think they have an ulterior motive. Over 80% of the country thinks this should be required. I've yet to hear a salient argument against requiring ID to vote.

 

This shouldn’t be an issue. Anyone can easily get a picture ID and that should be a requirement to vote. You need to have safeguards in place to prevent voter fraud and requiring a picture ID is a very simple one that no Democrat or Republican should have an issue with.

 

If requiring ID affects even 1% of voters, that's 1.5 million votes that won't be cast in order to stop what is by all accounts at most thousands of illegal votes.

Non-citizens are not risking their lives to come to the country to cast a vote that has a 0.000001% chance of impacting an election at the risk of spending years in jail and being deported.

 

But it is an issue. How do you reconcile that?

 

How is it an issue? What is onerous about obtaining a photo ID?

 

Make state issued ID's free and there is zero restriction to getting one. Simple as that. You need an ID to get pretty much anything in the US, why would voting be different? This is the laziest argument I've heard, and has been repeated for a long time. Why is the US one of the only civilized countries on the planet that doesn't require ID to vote?

 

You may believe that since many people can obtain a picture ID easily, this must be true for everyone. You overlook the fact that there are significant barriers for certain populations, such as low-income individuals, the elderly, or people living in rural areas, for whom obtaining an ID may not be as straightforward. This fallacy results from drawing a general conclusion based on a limited or incomplete set of data. It is akin to availability bias.

The fact is that many in these marginalized groups have difficulty getting proof of citizenship and identification, despite your assumption. GAO-14-634 has some details on the cost, barriers and ID ownership percentages by sub-groups.

 

The one that tried to overturn the 2020 election after it lost, which included a violent attack on our seat of government. Any other questions you need answered?

 

So in the span of 4 years between elections it’s just too onerous? You are right I don’t understand and I never will. Seems like a bullshit excuse really.

 

People have been making this argument for years. If getting an ID is so onerous, why haven’t the Democrats organized efforts to help those people get their photo IDs? They have voter registration drives, why not have photo ID drives?

 

How do you propose we bridge the gap between reality and what you think reality should be?

 

What is BS and inaccurate?

btw - are you willing to deny people their right to vote to solve an imaginary problem? You didn't seem to get around to answering the question.

 

May want to ask yourself that question. Give me a legitimate reason someone can’t get a photo ID in the span of 4 years.

 

No.

It is not my job to explain or defend the actions and motivations of others to you.

 

Didn’t think so. There is no legitimate reason.

 

That make a lot of sense.