Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!
  1. Gator Country Black Friday special!

    Now's a great time to join or renew and get $20 off your annual VIP subscription! LIMITED QUANTITIES -- for details click here.

**Buzz Buzz Buzz** - How did we get here?

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by tilly, Sep 16, 2024.

Were you here for The Thread?

This poll will close on Jan 24, 2025 at 7:00 AM.
  1. Yes. I get this thread. I lived through page 136

    165 vote(s)
    84.6%
  2. No. I have no idea what is going on. This place is weird.

    30 vote(s)
    15.4%
  1. maxgator

    maxgator GC Hall of Fame

    4,144
    301
    378
    Apr 3, 2007
    If you talk to a nole, they will tell you that they were undefeated last year. So let's include norvell.
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
  2. freedomgator

    freedomgator GC Hall of Fame

    2,573
    930
    2,023
    Mar 26, 2017
    [​IMG]
     
    • Funny Funny x 4
    • Like Like x 1
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
    • Best Post Ever Best Post Ever x 1
  3. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    TWO blowouts. One by UGA.
    They actually had a 2 TD lead on Bama before Bama stormed back in the second half.

    No one is saying they were top 5, but to say they werent top 20 is silly. They finished ranked #11.
    Period. That was a legit win for Billy.

    Not good enough in the big picture, but on that day, that was a big win.

    Nonetheless, I agree with everything else you said. I think Billy is on a game by game basis. If he gets blown out after a bye week he should be gone. If he somehow goes 1-1 and is close in the loss over the next two games, then I will listen to objections.

    I still say 7 wins needs to be his line in the sand to stay.
     
    • Agree Agree x 6
  4. freedomgator

    freedomgator GC Hall of Fame

    2,573
    930
    2,023
    Mar 26, 2017
    Chadwell enjoyers (are they any of those left?) in shambles

    upload_2024-10-24_8-2-9.png
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  5. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    I passively follow LU. My wife went there for a year back in the day before transferring and we have friends on faculty up there.

    I don't know if people realize how big an upset this was. Liberty was being discussed as a possible sneaky playoff team. KSU had never won an FBS game and came in 0-6.

    What doomed them? Penalties. (Sound familiar?)

    Also a pretty damning comment from their QB that may speak to a culture Issue:
    ,“I feel like it’s not a lot of fun. It don’t look like as fun as it used to be with us out there.”
     
    • Informative Informative x 3
  6. Distant Gator

    Distant Gator GC Hall of Fame

    5,408
    790
    478
    Apr 9, 2007
    Upstate, SC
    I agree w/ you about this issue of not giving credit to CBN for his wins.
    In 21 one of our (very knowledgeable) posters kept saying Mullen wasn't a good offensive mind and downplayed the success of Dak at Miss St. It's like irrational hatred blinds people to facts, or something, so they say really stupid things.

    And the problem is that saying really stupid things leads to really stupid decisions. (Firing Mullen was not stupid, to be clear.)

    What we need is clear eyed assessment of the future, not the past.
    So to me, if we finish with 7 regular season wins IMO Billy has earned another year.
    Whether GA or TX blows us out or not.

    The only way I change my opinion on the above is if we are SURE we have a good replacement...
    (Like Smart for Richt.)

    But I do not want to exchange 1 Sun Belt coach for another one.
     
    • Like Like x 5
  7. freedomgator

    freedomgator GC Hall of Fame

    2,573
    930
    2,023
    Mar 26, 2017
    [​IMG]
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  8. paidinfull

    paidinfull GC Hall of Fame

    6,055
    1,468
    2,038
    Feb 22, 2017
    Smart wasn’t a guarantee, he just happened to work out. He was an assistant with zero HC experience. Nobody has a crystal ball. You need a ton of support in a multitude of areas, some moxy, and a whole lot of luck. To get all those things clicking together takes a perfect storm.
     
    • Agree Agree x 8
    • Winner Winner x 3
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  9. freedomgator

    freedomgator GC Hall of Fame

    2,573
    930
    2,023
    Mar 26, 2017
    Of course there are no guarantees, and the people that get obsessed with "proven" are misguided. That said, you do have to look at who's available and make a judgement as to whether those dice are attractive enough to roll relative to your current situation. Some will say "always roll the dice we know what we have is bad" and that's not entirely illogical but I'm in the camp of "roll the dice reasonably."
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Wish I would have said that Wish I would have said that x 1
  10. ridgetop

    ridgetop GC Hall of Fame

    2,006
    701
    1,848
    Aug 4, 2020
    Top of the ridge
    Smart wasn’t considered a great hire until a few years in. There were multiple Kirby Dumb posts in a lot of message boards. He became a stud coach when he got QBs that could run his system flawlessly.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  11. igabradley

    igabradley GC Hall of Fame

    5,902
    194
    273
    Apr 9, 2007
    Chattahoochee
    You can add Jimbo to this list as well.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  12. paidinfull

    paidinfull GC Hall of Fame

    6,055
    1,468
    2,038
    Feb 22, 2017
    Rolling dice is always a crapshoot.
     
    • Funny Funny x 3
    • Like Like x 1
  13. ridgetop

    ridgetop GC Hall of Fame

    2,006
    701
    1,848
    Aug 4, 2020
    Top of the ridge
    Cornell had a warrior at Qb. Hate that he was a Nole but that Qb (and their pathetic schedule)last year carried the Noles and Norvl. Now that he is saddled with average QBs his lack of coaching is showing through.
     
  14. Skink

    Skink GC Hall of Fame

    He inherited a stocked team from Richt too
     
    • Winner Winner x 4
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Like Like x 1
  15. Skink

    Skink GC Hall of Fame

    Not only that, a crapshoot is always rolling dice
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Creative Creative x 1
  16. Endless Excuses

    Endless Excuses GC Hall of Fame

    2,897
    1,108
    2,628
    Jan 13, 2010
    Swampville
    Tell that to Adam Lane...
     
    • Funny Funny x 3
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • Creative Creative x 1
  17. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    [​IMG]
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
  18. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    [​IMG]
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Like Like x 1
    • Wish I would have said that Wish I would have said that x 1
  19. kryptonite

    kryptonite GC Hall of Fame

    3,227
    1,231
    2,118
    Dec 12, 2008
    They were actually outside the top 20 in the CFP ranking and didn't beat a single ranked team. They were not good. That win gave me a false sense of hope.

    We will see how it goes the rest of the way. I hope it is great but expecting to be underwhelmed.
     
  20. gatorbreeder

    gatorbreeder GC Legend

    545
    231
    173
    Jun 23, 2023
    While I agree that he needs to beat some of the big fish, this is absolutely an historical season for Indiana. They haven't been 7-0 since what, '56?

    Of course FreedomGator disagrees, but, has no point.
     
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2024
    • Like Like x 2
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1