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Mexico has a new president who like dictators

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by chemgator, Oct 20, 2024.

  1. chemgator

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    New Mexican president Claudia Sheinbaum (yes, that's her real name) has decided that Mexico's path to success is through the weakening or abandonment of relations with the U.S. and Europe, and towards better relations with Cuba, Russia, Iran, and Venezuela. She humiliated the King of Spain by demanding that he apologize for Spanish colonialism before he could be invited to her inauguration. She snubbed Biden and refused to meet with him. She is apparently uninterested in talking about security and immigration issues. She is angry with the U.S. and her southern neighbors for capturing drug cartel kingpin "el Mayo" Zambada without consulting her first.

    She seems to be almost as arrogant as Trump. These populist idiots seem to be multiplying.

    Opinion - Under its new president, Mexico’s foreign policy heads down dangerous path

     
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    US government pissed because she’s ignoring the Rules Based Order.

    Rules Based Order - we establish the rules and order you to obey them.
     
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  3. slayerxing

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    Mexico having a poor relationship with the us seems like a bad move to me…
     
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    Populism feels good. It rarely ends well.
     
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  5. wgbgator

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    The Democrats could learn a lot from her, she won like 60% of the vote. But of course she's a popular leftist, so therefor bad. Its pretty sad the Mexico has saner politics than the US, and it seems some people arent handling it well.
     
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    Is it safe to assume that Mexico won’t pay for the wall?
     
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  7. duggers_dad

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    They may need to build a wall to keep Americans out of Mexico.
     
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    Weird OP to blame this on MX.
    I don't blame them. New NAFTA, tariffs. "friendly" US: you can't come here & our bidnesses can't go there. The evil Chinese want to build cheap EVs there & sell them. Jobs & cheap cars sounds pretty damn good.
     
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  9. ThePlayer

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    Well...so much for expecting female leaders to unite the world. o_O
     
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    Mexican voters are assuming the cartels won't kill a woman.
     
  11. BLING

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    The cartels have killed many women in Mexico, including journalists and politicians.
     
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  13. demosthenes

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    Saner? Around 40 of their political candidates were murdered and many others dropped out of races due to legitimate threats on their lives. The current president has moved a large chunk of civilian policing under the army, has needlessly embarrassed a first world nation for no sound reason, etc. Your definition of “saner” and mine are different.
     
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    Progressive liberal agenda feels good.
    It never ends well.
    FIFY
     
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  15. wgbgator

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    They just elected a Jewish woman scientist with over 60% of the vote, we are a coin flip between a fascist who has already tried to overthrow the government (and the apparent target of assassination himself) and another person who has basically adopted most of that guy's policies in a bid to overcome our anti-democratic political system. If our politics are sane, I'll go with whatever electing the scientist is. Yes, the drug problem is very real there, and they can mostly thank the world 's biggest drug and gun market being right next door to them for that.
     
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  17. BLING

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    The police in Mexico are notoriously corrupt if not outright owned and operated by the cartels in some places.

    I guess it depends on if this President is motivated by trying to root this out or is simply trying to consolidate power under a military police state. Although even if her “motives” are good usually these sorts of authoritarian moves end badly.
     
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  18. wgbgator

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    Hot take: We should do this to the British monarchy if they want to come here for anything
     
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    yes, this was what I feared when I originally read about the pending election. seems like she has turned even harder left since then, 100% cartel controlled. not good. how will int'l business look at this and their attempt to seize the massive Vulcan property for pennies on the dollar?

    cartel violence is raging across Mexico, who wants to invest hundreds of billions in that and a country bent on socialism?

    this will impact immigration and fentanyl in a bad way and open a door to China to set up shop on our doorstep, as if their massive port in Peru isn't enough.

    said then they were at an inflection point and they went the wrong way

    long term , this will cut supplies of cement and oil as the Mexican gubmnt and the related corruption eats away at those industries.
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    US firm says Mexican authorities illegally seized its port terminal | Reuters
     
  20. demosthenes

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    I never claimed our politics were perfect or sane, the term we were using was “saner” which is a comparator. Yes, I would go with our current system over theirs. 5-10 years from now? Who knows, but I’d be willing to bet we’ll still be in the better more stable position though.
     
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