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Kiffin is just like the previous s 4. Hoping and wishing he'll be better at UF than he has everywhere else.

Tired of that. Rather wait until we can hire a known quantity. But if that ain't gonna happen and we have to reach, might as well find a HC or coordinator that would rather cut off his own hand than lose. At anything. Including recruiting and portal and hiring staff.

 

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Lot of words there to simply say you dont like Kiffin and dont want him as a coach. At least you could spell the guy's name right.

I can see K i f f i n as a self absorbed narcissist who knows football, but I dont see him as a con man any more than any other football coach including Napier.

Relatedly, who is your realistic choice for the coach of the Gators and why??

 

Hope you are right with that first sentence, but I think the Vols are overrated, not a top 10 team but we will find out this weekend as they play a struggling bama team. As for that last sentence, I cant imagine that as a reality.

 

But who is this known commodity you speak o??

 

Well, considering the people making those decisions are idiots, I'm not sure that's a valid point.

 

Uh, that attitude is part of the problem and why we can't even get to 6-6 now.

 

You're clearly wronger though.

 

The wheels were coming off because of the BS behind the scenes at UF (like not paying for players amongst other things) that caused DM to check out. Bottom line is this mess is not DM's fault. It's way above his pay grade and was going on before and after he was here. I'd love to see him at a school that had carte blanche wrt recruiting and spending on assistant coaches like the gumps, mutts or OSU to see what he could really do.

 

Well, I hope you've enjoyed the product on the field since he left. Me personally, I have not.

 

You really think one of those schools would ever hire Mullen??

Id say it is telling that he has opted for a job pontificating on games every fall Saturday.

 

The timing is not good, thus the wait, or the reach.

 

What part of 2021 wasn't Mullen responsible for? Losing to Kentucky? Giving up 49 points to lsu in a loss? Losing 34-7 to Georgia? Losing 40 to 17 to South carolina? Giving up 52 points to Samford? Losing to Missouri? That was enjoyable? That was the finished product of a 4 year rebuild.

Napier's failures don't change what Mullen allowed to have happen under his watch.

6 and 6 isn't an automatic firing for a successful coach. Sometimes things happen or timing is off and a team has to take some growing pains like we did in 2007 with an absurdly inexperienced defense. It was one of, if not our worst defense up to that time( sadly we have had several worse defenses since) but we knew the experience would pay off so a 4 loss season was easily accepted. Sometimes injuries derail a season like our 2013 season with muschamp. I don't care how bad he was as a coach, no coach should be expected to overcome that many injuries.

Neither of those things happened with Mullens 2021 team. The fallout thst year was a direct result of neglecting the qb room, wr room, offensive line and entire defense by keeping Grantham. His recruiting misses caught up to him and those hollow classes filled with guys who never saw our campus crumbled. He had nothing lined up in waiting and did nothing to build on the success he had with mac's recruits or the few transfers he brought in with him initially. Afttraner Grimes, Jefferson, greenard and Shuler left what significant transfers did Mullen bring in? Shorter and no one else. The dude just stopped doing anything related to roster building.

2021 Florida Gators football team - Wikipedia

 

Agree- take it me, the most pro- Mullen guy on the board. Who kept believing even when all others started falling away.
But by mid 21 it was clear- the guy gave up. The SC game- and SC was awful- was the final proof.
He clearly fired himself.
Why is another topic which I won't go into here.

 

The anti-Napier....

 

More anti-Napier mindset

 

Have to say, I was always on the wrong side of the Mullen tenure.

I hated the hire for several reasons, but he came in, said all the right things and more importantly he won. So as a Gator fan I got on board, even celebrated winning the East as others downplayed it. Then, just as quickly it all went to crap, he gets fired and Im thinking WTH just happened. I'm left with no other conclusion, but that he simply quit on the program.

Conversely, I dont think Napier has quit on the program, he's just not a winning SEC coach.

 

Does look like the same haircut tho.

 

Was thinking a little too much like this actually