The Trump administration in 2019, or 2020? If you are going to play this silly childish game of the President drives crime stats, then Trump caused the murder wave in 2020 and now Biden is fixing it.
Turns out violent crime didn't drop by 2.1% in 2022. It rose by 4.5%. Only 45% of violent crime is reported (even less in new immigrant communities, I believe). The FBI didn't want people to know that violent crime rose in 2022, contrary to what they told us. Judge for yourself by reading the article below). If the FBI can't be trusted to release good data in 2022 why should anyone trust their data for 2023?
It actually rose because the 2021 numbers were decreased. If the 2021 numbers weren't decreased, we would have seen a decrease for violent crime in 2022 still, although less of one than previously reported. So is your theory that they wanted people to think crime rose by more in 2021?
According to the article there were 80,029 more violent crimes in 2022 than in 2021. So the violent crime rate didn't fall in 2022. That's my only point I'm starting to trust crime data about as much as I trust job reports
Yeah, a fact that is only true because they overestimated crimes in 2021. You assumed that it was driven by desire to keep crime figures down in 2022, so I was asking you why they wanted them up in 2021?
Just like the unemployment numbers that get revised every month, another fallacy perpetuated by the Dems.
Which way did those get revised this month? Also, the FBI are "the Dems" now? As is the Bureau of Labor Statistics?
BTW, funny note on the adjustments: this means that the FBI actually over-reported crime during Biden's time, when you combine the 2021 and 2022 adjustments. Diamond Joe does it again!
Were murders underestimated in 2022? I read they were revised upward by 1,699. Not a crime statement junkie/economist like you but I'm wondering how an error that large is made in murder stats (the hardest crime stat to fudge, one would think) Was the 2022 homicide number adjusted upward by 1699? That seems like a big miss if true
No, that is not true. They were revised by just over 600. The rest of that must have been the downward adjustment to 2021 being added to an upward adjustment. As I said, after the two adjustments, the number of homicides over those two years actually decreased very slightly.
But you are a supporter of Russian propaganda. I try to follow your reasoning and one of us doesn’t use logic.
The most important thing to learn from this thread is that liberals caused the "Floyd effect" which killed roughly 25,000 or more blacls after the death of George Floyd. Attacking the police and making them afraid or unwilling to do their job caused blacks to be more rambunctious than normal. Murders rose sharply as did traffic fatalities. AP: Ferguson and Floyd Effects somehow failed to make black students behave better
Obviously, the FBI was for and reported on increased crime before they were against it, to paraphrase John Kerry. Trust the experts! Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! Science is first and foremost and men can give birth! Sadly, so many of our institutions have proved to be less than honorable. The big issue with this FBI revision is that it was done stealthily without any press release or acknowledgement they goofed. As always, it's not the mistake - it's how you handle it. Why wouldn't the average American be suspicious of data coming from these sources? Everyone makes mistakes; but, only professionals own their mistakes with an explanation and a plan on how the mistake(s) will be limited in the future. Not done in this case...probably hunting down some suburban mom who spoke up at a School Board meeting.
It appears that this is largely an issue with the 2021 data based on switching systems. Weeding through their press release (which they did put out), it looks like they are trying to estimate response bias due to the switch in reporting systems and that caused adjustments to crime in 2021 and 2022, with the overall effect being a slight decrease overall, with a decrease in previously reported crime in 2021 and an increase in previously reported crime in 2022.