Harris sitting down for Fox interview Wednesday

Let me help you out here:
Our rating: False
Characterizing Harris as "backing out" from the debate is inaccurate. Trump proposed Sept. 4 as a date for a debate with Harris, but the vice president never publicly agreed to it. She can't "back out" if she was never in.


TRUMPH offered the Sept 4 debate! LOL When Fox news actually offered both, trumph backed out. She offered several times to debate trumph, he didn't respond. Did he back out of all of those?? You know as well as I do that trumph has said publicly after that one debate, that "There will be no more debates". Harris would debate him again in a heartbeat, anytime any place.

You are so in the trumph camp. I have yet to see you post anything against trumph. All Harris. You're so disingenuous.

Editing to add: That was a debate he wanted to change from the Sept 10th debate with ABC which was all of a sudden too liberal to have. He wanted to change it to the 4th on Fox. She was right to want to keep what the two sides agreed to

 

For some strange reason that I cannot begin to understand, Trump seems to get a pass on it from them.

 

LOL, I'm so not in the trump camp. What camp i'm in is calling out BS. Fact is trump offered to debate harris on sept 4th of Fox. Fact is harris didn't want to do it. She Declined. Trump declined to debate harris on fox in Oct. Simple as that. You keep thinking it's different but I'll be living in the real world, you keep living in fantasy land. Trump unfortunately will probably win in 3 weeks. Here is the data from 2020 compared to now polling wise.

 

This is hilarious. Biden was essentially bum rushed out of the race for the bad debate performance and the relentless pounding he got from the MSM about his age.

Now that Trump is the only old, doddering candidate in the race, suddenly health and vitality should be off limits. Unfortunately, the MSM has largely enforced this double standard.

But nothing can be done to offset Trump's insane ramblings at his idiotic rallies because much like Joe's bad debate, the videos are out there for everyone to judge for themselves.

 

The comparison is silly. First, Biden is not running, so it’s irrelevant. Second, the idea that we are discussing EXTENT OF cognitive degradation for Biden and Trump (who has it worse), is itself a damning summation for Trump,the guy actually running.

If you’ve watched Trump, you see a guy who is either sleep-deprived, cognitively degraded, or at the tail end of a long drug-induced rage party. He doesn’t make rational sense to anyone on anything of substance.

And to those who are true Trumpeteers (I know you’re not one of them), his “weave” is not a real thing and doesn’t excuse the garbledeegook that spills from his mouth.

 

What do you mean by cognitively all there? Does he present well in public? No. Is he still able to make decisions and work with his staff behind the scene? Probably.

Honestly, at this point, Trump looks far more cognitively compromised. Like, WTF with the weird swaying to and playing music for 30 minutes the other day?

 

There's a difference between being able to do the day-to-day job of POTUS and running and winning an election for POTUS. Honestly, though, look at Trump lately. Biden may stutter, but Trump makes no sense at all. And is just doing straight-up weird stuff now, like that rally last night. . . or every time he talks. Just because he says stupid and crazy stuff without a stutter doesn't mean he's more cognitively there.

 

Trump wanted to change the date and the venue because he was terrified of Harris! VERY different opponent don't you think? Maybe he thought Fox would be a more friendly atmosphere. When he realized he was bringing a butter knife to a sword fight he ran away from any debate.
Bottom line, the debates were set, he tried to back out of the first one, and successfully backed out of any remaining scheduled debates. Offering a debate without the agreement of the venue is not an official debate. By your logic, trumph backed out of a debate every time Harris offered one. Why do you believe everything he says?

So there is NO BS in the trumph camp? You can't find one example of bs on the other side across this message board? Give me a break.

 

You're why I pray for a revolution. . . and the crackdown!!!

 

Because they're stupid and don't care and just want to break stuff, so he literally gets a pass on anything and everything. I could produce tapes of him raping a 10yo and they'd find some rationalization for it.

 

LOL, he was running up until a few months ago and it was basically Weekend at Bernies and no one cared on the Dem side until he looked like a disaster in the first debate. Trump is losing it a little bit like pretty much anyone at that age. Harris is behind where biden was at this time in 2020. That is an issue for her hence her trying to go on Rogan and Fox. It's not that complicated.

 

It's funny that I pretty sure you don't even believe what you are typing. And you look ridiculous saying trump looks worse than biden cognitively. If you actually believe that, then nothing else to discuss because you aren't acting rationally.

 

Said it many times in the polling thread, the 2022 midterms are a much better model than either the 2020 or 2016 general elections for several reasons. First and it's rather obvious Trump has declined considerably over the last four years. He's not the Donald Trump who ran in 2020 and certainly not the Trump who ran in 2016.

Most significantly in every election in the 2022 midterms the Democratic candidates often by a considerable margin outperformed the Republican candidates and this was especially true in the rust belt blue wall states that will most likely determine the winner in the Electoral College. In Michigan the Democrats ended up with a majority in both houses of the state legislature and also won every statewide office for the first time in decades. In the gubernatorial election the polls had Gretchen Whitmer in a statistical dead heat with the Trump endorsed election denier Tudor Dixon. Whitmer won by double digits. In Pennsylvania the polls predicted a victory for the Trump endorsed television doctor Mehmet Oz. John Fetterman who was still recovering from a stroke and had difficulty speaking beat Oz by almost five percent. In a 2023 election in which the results would determine the philosophic majority on the State Supreme Court the liberal candidate beat the conservative who was a former justice by a margin of over 10 percent in an election in which abortion was the overriding issue.

Finally enthusiasm for Harris is much closer to that of Obama in 2008 than it was for either Clinton in 2016 or Biden in 2020. One indicator of voter enthusiasm is the percentage of donations the candidate receives from small donors. In 2016 and 2020 Trump led the Democratic candidate in that metric by a significant margin. In 2024 Harris is out raising Trump. While I still wouldn't count Trump out given that eradicating him politically is like trying to eradicate vermin like rats or cockroaches he is in a much weaker position than he was either four years or eight years ago.

 

We clearly live in different worlds. They both look bad, but Trump looks way worse. He looks as unhealthy as I've ever seen him and NEVER makes any sense. All he does is ramble buzz words designed to get his dumbass audience off.

Again, my No. 1 choice would be a Pentagon Coup followed by heavy purges of the far left and far right. But, it appears we'll be going with the spite vote for Harris and hoping for the best instead. Though, I am keeping my fingers crossed.

 

You're full of it. You are ABSOLUTELY voting for Trump. The funny - or is it weird - thing is that you're trying to run from it. Just lean in. You're MAGA all day. Stop being coy about it.

 

We shall see in 3 weeks which polls were right. Can't argue that trump/harris is much closer now than this time in 2020. Simple as that. Mid-term elections only get somewhere around 47% of the population to vote where as a Presidential election usually gets around 2/3 of the population to vote. So the best comparison is to compare to the last presidential election.

 

My number 1 choice would've been for trump to not run for re-election and for the dems to put up someone who wasn't a walking corpse. But as the Stones said, we can't always get what we want. I think both would do a crap job as president. We haven't had a President that wasn't either an idiot or senile since Obama. That's sad.

 

Wow, whatever prescription drugs you are on you need to scale back. I've never voted for trump and won't start this year. Sorry that I'm a realist and that bothers you so much. My political leanings are about as independent as one can get. You are just too far left to understand it.

 

There were good/decent options on the board in Haley and DeSantis but MAGA being idiots and all took the coin flip in OT over the 35-0 shutout. I'll never forgive them for that and truly wish and hope for the absolute worst for all of them. Truly horrible Americans on every level.

 

The only thing I’d disagree with is the comment that nobody cared that Biden was in decline. That’s nonsense. We all saw it, and we wanted someone other than Biden to run. Many of us were very disappointed when he made the selfish decision to run. These boards were littered with the complaints. It’s just not true that nobody noticed anything until the debate. (By “we” I include Dems and Never-Trumpers, for clarity).